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Sunday, January 5, 2003 (#5)
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- what: ICQ dialogue between Bubba and Woozle
woozle 1/5/03 5:01 PM back
woozle 1/5/03 5:02 PM glad you caught that in time, hope it really
was in time, and it looks like we called it
right not trying to stop by Hull Rd this
morning...
Bubba 1/5/03 6:43 PM caught what?
woozle 1/5/03 8:11 PM the infection
Bubba 1/5/03 8:24 PM oh rt
woozle 1/5/03 8:24 PM Did you see that order for 4 series 9 bears?
Bubba 1/5/03 8:24 PM gottem in a box
woozle 1/5/03 8:24 PM cool. Will run card asap.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:24 PM awaiting updated DB
woozle 1/5/03 8:24 PM Zipping now.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:24 PM kewl
Bubba 1/5/03 8:25 PM have we paid suppliers for Christmas?
woozle 1/5/03 8:25 PM the checks have gone out, but it hasn't been
30 days yet.
woozle 1/5/03 8:25 PM Nonetheless, my best mental calculations are
that there's no problem.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:25 PM kewl
woozle 1/5/03 8:25 PM I have to add numbers up to see exactly what's
left over.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:26 PM k
Bubba 1/5/03 8:26 PM but there's enought to order LB tomorrow rt?
woozle 1/5/03 8:27 PM There should be -- but even if not, the order
will be turned over long before the checks get
cashed.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:27 PM COD?
woozle 1/5/03 8:27 PM COD HOLD 30, wasn't it?
woozle 1/5/03 8:27 PM ZR was, and LB was...
Bubba 1/5/03 8:28 PM just for Christmas was the request
woozle 1/5/03 8:28 PM I don't remember what we did with MT. Might
have been HOLD 10
woozle 1/5/03 8:28 PM Right, but in the meantime the HOLD $ is still
in the bank.,
Bubba 1/5/03 8:28 PM will have to see if we can set up the account
like that permanently and sow we have a buffer
is what you're saying. Paying for #2 before #1
w/#1's money?
woozle 1/5/03 8:30 PM We should apply for net terms w/ MT, LB at
least... not _exactly_ paying A with B's
money, but you could think of it that way I
suppose.
Bubba 1/5/03 8:48 PM then we could see which segment of the store
drew what 3's
Bubba 1/5/03 8:48 PM #'s
woozle 1/5/03 9:04 PM internet being difficult...
Bubba 1/5/03 9:05 PM gremblins
woozle 1/5/03 9:05 PM missed what you said before #s
Bubba 1/5/03 9:06 PM how about setting overture up in several
different depts (accounts)?
activating just the depts we want running
woozle 1/5/03 9:07 PM we're getting enough sales rt now without
spending on ads
Bubba 1/5/03 9:07 PM enough?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:07 PM it's not even really a trickle, more of an
ooze.
woozle 1/5/03 9:07 PM enough to keep me too busy keeping up
Bubba 1/5/03 9:08 PM which is why splitting the operation was not
my wish. we went from being more than the sum
of our parts to just our parts
woozle 1/5/03 9:14 PM Couldn't function under old arrangement.
woozle 1/5/03 9:14 PM One crisis after another.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:14 PM you never really tried
woozle 1/5/03 9:14 PM Don't get me mad.
woozle 1/5/03 9:14 PM How would you feel if I said the same to you?
woozle 1/5/03 9:15 PM I did nothing but try, for 5 years.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:15 PM fuck getting mad
Bubba 1/5/03 9:15 PM can we talk or not
woozle 1/5/03 9:15 PM We can try.
woozle 1/5/03 9:15 PM to talk.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:15 PM then talk don't get mad
woozle 1/5/03 9:16 PM ok, but don't say I didn't try.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:16 PM there is no try
Bubba 1/5/03 9:16 PM never said you didn't
woozle 1/5/03 9:16 PM "You never really tried", you said
Bubba 1/5/03 9:17 PM I just thought we were gonna give it one year
after the divorce working together and we
"Never tried" that
woozle 1/5/03 9:17 PM The circumstances became impossible.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:17 PM Juliet knew of your going to NC before I did
woozle 1/5/03 9:18 PM She knew it was a possibility. You knew it was
a possibility.
woozle 1/5/03 9:18 PM Also, she was paying me.
woozle 1/5/03 9:18 PM I felt an obligation as an employee.
woozle 1/5/03 9:19 PM As a partner, my obligations are less clear;
to keep the business running, not terminate
without warning. Sure.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:19 PM we only did it for a month - 6 weeks and of
course there would be a tweak it to satisfy
all involved which we hadn't really gotten
into.
woozle 1/5/03 9:19 PM ?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:19 PM you in Hull house
Bubba 1/5/03 9:20 PM or the bigger house you told Lynne to look for
and which she spend time looking for
woozle 1/5/03 9:20 PM Me in Hull house became intolerable. I made
attempts to contain the chaos, but it became
obvious that nobody else was really interested
in fixing it.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:20 PM not true
woozle 1/5/03 9:20 PM yes true
Bubba 1/5/03 9:21 PM that would have to include me and I was not OK
w/it
woozle 1/5/03 9:21 PM Nobody tried to enforce the cig butt rule.
Nobody did anything about the garbage or the
piles of junk in the back yard.
woozle 1/5/03 9:21 PM I tried to enforce the cig butt rule, at
least.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:21 PM not true. I took a minute to implement it and
it has since been kept on top of fairly well
Bubba 1/5/03 9:22 PM cig's are now policed by all smokers
woozle 1/5/03 9:22 PM I always see cig butts in the driveway when
I'm there.
woozle 1/5/03 9:22 PM Has the gas bill been paid recently?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:22 PM don't know
woozle 1/5/03 9:22 PM The one that's in my name, that is?
woozle 1/5/03 9:23 PM I can't deal with living in a place where you
never know when a service is going to be
terminated because someone hasn't paid the
bill -- and didn't warn anyone there might be
a problem.
woozle 1/5/03 9:23 PM That's just one aspect I can't deal with.
woozle 1/5/03 9:23 PM I can't deal with Lynne. That's another
aspect.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:24 PM and you agreed to pay $300/month for RH being
in HR which is why I said not to worry about
cable because $100/month of that was gonna go
to it for all of us to have cable.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:25 PM I'm sure that you two can work through
anything as you both strive for rationality
and communication
woozle 1/5/03 9:25 PM Lynne kept at least that much for the month or
two I was there.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:25 PM kept?
woozle 1/5/03 9:25 PM She still owes at least $800 or so, by my
calculations.
woozle 1/5/03 9:26 PM See the last spreadsheet I gave her/you, back
in August or whenever.
woozle 1/5/03 9:26 PM And that's not including the original $2k or
$1200 or whatever it was from back in 1997.
woozle 1/5/03 9:26 PM 1997-9
Bubba 1/5/03 9:26 PM are you not crediting any of the sales to me?
woozle 1/5/03 9:27 PM I haven't figured out how the sales in the
ensuing months have affected the balance
woozle 1/5/03 9:28 PM If you want to figure it out, you have the
same sales figures I do. The db is, I think,
done uploading.
woozle 1/5/03 9:29 PM Either that or it quit. I had to run it
downstairs cuz it kept stalling up here.
woozle 1/5/03 9:29 PM And while it was going, my messages were
taking forever to go thru or not going thru at
all. So I think it must be done.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:30 PM had to go answer the door
we should start w/how much product we've
bought subtract it from how much we've sold to
see what the first big math looks like and
then go into seperating other costs
woozle 1/5/03 9:30 PM I didn't really want to get into this just
before bedtime after driving all day, but I
can do a quick approx
Bubba 1/5/03 9:30 PM no that's not needed
Bubba 1/5/03 9:31 PM just saying that if we break it into big to
small chuncks
Bubba 1/5/03 9:31 PM it might be easier for both of us.
woozle 1/5/03 9:31 PM net gains for each month since July, from the
Monthly Summary query:
Bubba 1/5/03 9:31 PM I think that w/Flores selling and shirts
flowing we could stand to make money this
year.
woozle 1/5/03 9:32 PM +1352.36
-1113.76
+16.84
+530.46
-105.37
+371.48
Bubba 1/5/03 9:32 PM and I still want to do the software thing
before it's outdated
Bubba 1/5/03 9:32 PM are those #'s costs and deposits?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:32 PM - = supplier
+ = CS deposit?
woozle 1/5/03 9:33 PM net gain: +$1052.01
Bubba 1/5/03 9:33 PM kewl
woozle 1/5/03 9:33 PM each are customer payments less restock and
shipping expenses, for the month
Bubba 1/5/03 9:33 PM kewl
woozle 1/5/03 9:33 PM yes, I think we could start to gain steadily
this year. Cutting down on "dead" orders has
helped.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:34 PM I'm not pissed or pissy so chilllllll
budddddddyyyy
woozle 1/5/03 9:34 PM Software: I started writing a distributable VB
version of it last week
woozle 1/5/03 9:35 PM Seemed like it could be immediately useful for
a lot of things, e.g. I could write scripts to
automatically figure out disbursements from
sales and such
Bubba 1/5/03 9:35 PM kewl kewl
woozle 1/5/03 9:35 PM Much development remains, but it has been
started.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:35 PM that is delightful news ol chap
woozle 1/5/03 9:36 PM well there you are. It just ticks me when you
say I'm not trying, or I haven't tried.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:36 PM I never mean it that way!!!
woozle 1/5/03 9:36 PM I'm pulling freakin' rabbits out of hats on an
assembly line basis, is what I'm doing...
woozle 1/5/03 9:36 PM Ok, apolology accpected.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:37 PM k
Bubba 1/5/03 9:37 PM kewl
Bubba 1/5/03 9:38 PM welcome home
woozle 1/5/03 9:38 PM Just to emphasize another point -- it's
impossible to do anything requiring as much
concentration as software development when
there's a new crisis every week. Up here there
may be distractions, but they are generally
_predictable_, _regular_ distractions. I can
deal with them and not lose too much momentum.
woozle 1/5/03 9:39 PM With the Crisis du Jour in Athens, it was a
matter of "oh shit, now how am I going to buy
gas so I can take this order to the PO?"
Bubba 1/5/03 9:39 PM I'll not have to like it, just work around it.
woozle 1/5/03 9:39 PM I guess so.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:41 PM so much of our "Magic" were the spontaneous
eruptions that would leave both of us jazzed
and feeling energized anew about the project
woozle 1/5/03 9:41 PM I don't know if that's an accurate description
of how I felt
Bubba 1/5/03 9:41 PM oh dude, come on now.
woozle 1/5/03 9:41 PM "eruptions" = disputes?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:42 PM no creative
woozle 1/5/03 9:42 PM Such as?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:43 PM the Martin/Lewis thing that has gotten us to
this point in the creation of the best damn
web store on the freakin internet
woozle 1/5/03 9:44 PM that's a longer-term process; it sounded like
you were talking about specific moments of
creative epiphany
Bubba 1/5/03 9:44 PM spikes throughout the process
Bubba 1/5/03 9:45 PM epiphanial out takes so to speak
woozle 1/5/03 9:45 PM So you feel that we're not experiencing those
spikes, and this has slowed or halted the
longer-term process?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:45 PM yes
Bubba 1/5/03 9:46 PM Lynne plays "Remember" about 5-7 times a day
on her computer
woozle 1/5/03 9:46 PM That being an example of a spike, or being an
example of missing the interaction?
Bubba 1/5/03 9:46 PM the Lynne comment?
woozle 1/5/03 9:47 PM right. (Or was it an unrelated comment?)
Bubba 1/5/03 9:48 PM Y actually. We don't jam with this
geographical arrangement. I was originally
unrelated but triggered the previous
woozle 1/5/03 9:49 PM This is true. But jamming isn't very
satisfying, on an inner level, when you're
completely stressed-out on that same inner
level.
woozle 1/5/03 9:49 PM (By which I mean me.)
Bubba 1/5/03 9:51 PM bummer
woozle 1/5/03 9:52 PM Hey, that's why we need to get our financial
ducks in a row. So we're making money, so we
can afford to take time for visits and
jamming.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:52 PM RT
woozle 1/5/03 9:53 PM You can buy the Hull house and expand it as
needed; we can expand up here or rent a place
for musical stuff or whatever, and then the
visits can happen more easily and more
frequently.
woozle 1/5/03 9:54 PM That's [ an example of ] why the money is
important. Otherwise it's just numbers.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:54 PM good thought
woozle 1/5/03 9:54 PM Oh, and it helps to have it for keeping
vehicles running, too.
woozle 1/5/03 9:54 PM Mine is due for a timing belt replacement.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:55 PM you gonna do it?
woozle 1/5/03 9:55 PM When I have the cash. Until then, I'm only
using it for short trips around town.
woozle 1/5/03 9:56 PM It all depends on how much of my xmas money I
get back from vbz.
woozle 1/5/03 9:56 PM That's where the $500 came from for paying LB.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:57 PM why would you not get it back?
woozle 1/5/03 9:57 PM If there was a net loss, after operating
expenses.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:57 PM thot we made $1300+
Bubba 1/5/03 9:57 PM leaving $800
Bubba 1/5/03 9:58 PM for orders
woozle 1/5/03 9:59 PM That's net for just the orders; there are
hosting expenses, which should be minor. I'm
not _anticipating_ a problem, but in these
situations it just seems that there's always
some extra set of expenses that creeps in and
deletes the profits.
woozle 1/5/03 9:59 PM I just won't be sure until I've added it all
up.
Bubba 1/5/03 9:59 PM rt
Bubba 1/5/03 9:59 PM kmp
woozle 1/5/03 9:59 PM y
Bubba 1/5/03 10:01 PM I'm gonna look at the info I have for the golf
stuff so we can get that going
woozle 1/5/03 10:02 PM k
Bubba 1/5/03 10:02 PM do we have Elvis in the building?
woozle 1/5/03 10:02 PM On my back-burner is an app to let you enter
items into the catalog in a user-friendly kind
of way
woozle 1/5/03 10:02 PM Elvis? As in the shirts?
Bubba 1/5/03 10:02 PM schweet
Bubba 1/5/03 10:03 PM Yes, thank you vurrrrry much
Bubba 1/5/03 10:03 PM are E shirts available in the store?
woozle 1/5/03 10:03 PM We have his shirts in, yes -- all the rock
shirts -- but they haven't been topicalized
yet.
woozle 1/5/03 10:03 PM I did some on that a few days ago and some
more last night
woozle 1/5/03 10:04 PM (Just now added a "when needed" field to the
Orders table to make it easier to flag urgent
orders)
Bubba 1/5/03 10:07 PM Do we offer gift wrapping for a fee?
woozle 1/5/03 10:08 PM not officially
woozle 1/5/03 10:08 PM too much trouble to keep up with right now
woozle 1/5/03 10:09 PM if we had dedicated shipping staff, we could
offer it
woozle 1/5/03 10:09 PM but right now, we'd have to drop the service
during heavy shipping times (e.g. xmas), which
is of course when most people would want it
Bubba 1/5/03 10:10 PM rt but if we get the supplier to split the
order so that the gift wrapping part came here
part of the order came here, we'd pay a little
more in shipping which would be split between
the orders
Bubba 1/5/03 10:11 PM $8
woozle 1/5/03 10:11 PM I don't even want to think about the
programming involved in keeping track of order
destinations
Bubba 1/5/03 10:13 PM we do split orders now
woozle 1/5/03 10:13 PM yes, but not heavy volume.
woozle 1/5/03 10:13 PM They're already a headache as is.
Bubba 1/5/03 10:13 PM gifts or split orders?
woozle 1/5/03 10:14 PM split orders
woozle 1/5/03 10:15 PM Mainly a problem cuz I have to do them by
hand, and the issue of how to solve that gets
into other issues (programming, mostly)
woozle 1/5/03 10:16 PM largely the issue of making it possible for
you to enter your own shipping and inventory
data
Bubba 1/5/03 10:17 PM This is too deep for a having driven after who
knows what kind of send off w/Livia and an
almost heated discussion w/me individual when
it's past the indivisuals bed time anyway.
Bubba 1/5/03 10:17 PM individual
woozle 1/5/03 10:18 PM something like that
Bubba 1/5/03 10:19 PM and you say I don't understand you bubbie
woozle 1/5/03 10:20 PM if you understand the ripples, do you
understand the stream? (And that's MISTER
grasshopper to you...)
Bubba 1/5/03 10:21 PM Yeah he really missed her grass, Hopper.
woozle 1/5/03 10:23 PM Why do ya think they called him The Cane, I
mean Kane...
Bubba 1/5/03 10:23 PM got any new hat designs?
woozle 1/5/03 10:24 PM Should be able to get back to that. Keep
reminding me.
Bubba 1/5/03 10:24 PM Think 6" stripe diagonally across the hat from
looking at it left to right
Bubba 1/5/03 10:25 PM only the stripe would be VBZ.NET
woozle 1/5/03 10:25 PM will consider
Bubba 1/5/03 10:26 PM just outline. flat border w/3D letters
matching the hat color
Bubba 1/5/03 10:26 PM border contrasting color
Bubba 1/5/03 10:26 PM even the flat stitching is raised a little
Bubba 1/5/03 10:27 PM stitch the whole hat and the letters would be
not there like chiseled into rock
Bubba 1/5/03 10:27 PM textured hattage
woozle 1/5/03 10:27 PM <brain cells shutting down...>
Bubba 1/5/03 10:27 PM it still might only cost $3
Bubba 1/5/03 10:29 PM and this concludes our brodcast day
woozle 1/5/03 10:29 PM thought they'd never shut down...
woozle 1/5/03 10:29 PM tty tomorrow.
Bubba 1/5/03 10:30 PM rt o
Bubba 1/5/03 10:30 PM this is Walter Cronkite saying "What's that
smell?" Good night
woozle 1/5/03 10:30 PM I'm Chevy Chase, and you're not.
Bubba 1/5/03 10:30 PM and I thank GOD every day for that.
woozle 1/5/03 10:31 PM night...
Bubba 1/5/03 10:31 PM sayonara