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The Xmas CD Project does not affect the debt situation between Plaintiffs and Defendants because it was an "on spec" investment of time and effort by all parties, in anticipation of profits from sales, with no guarantee that sales would exceed expenses. See [[Xmas CD Project]] for details.
The Xmas CD Project does not affect the debt situation between Plaintiffs and Defendants because it was an "on spec" investment of time and effort by all parties, in anticipation of profits from sales, with no guarantee that sales would exceed expenses. See [[Xmas CD Project]] for details.
==Nick Notes==
===RDA Disputes===
RDA disputes the following entries (as taken from notes on the printouts copied by the defense lawyer):
====2000====
:'''1.''' "Nick shows an 'emergency loan' on 9/27 and re-payment on 10/9 and adds both to the list of alleged debts. Instead of cancelling out the $350, it doubles it." In other words, the 10/9 repayment should be credited to Defendants. There is also a note next to the 10/9 "NS/BofD #958" entry saying "2 EL's for $350????", which I think is a reiteration of this same comment.
:'''2.''' "We were not responsible for GCEH costs" next to 2000-01-24 "Hostway: GCEH hosting monthly" entry, and presumably applicable to all entries regarding GCEH.
:'''3.''' "Paid him cash from Jeremy" next to 2000-11-13 $200 entry
====2001====
:'''4.''' "Button was Nick's cat!" next to 2001-03-10 Companion Animal Hospital entry
:'''5.''' "dedicated server n/c to RDA" next to entries regarding Hostway hosting
:'''6.''' "should have been a credit?" next to 2001-06-16 entry for $200.00 part 2 of total $600
:'''7.''' "Nick shows 2 entries acknowledging repayment in the amount of $200 each (one on 6-16 and one on 10/10). He adds both to amount of debits when they should have been subtracted. Instead of balancing out each of the original alleged debits... it doubles each of them... creating an $800 discrepancy."
:'''8.''' "Additionally, Nick shows a $400 loan for drums. It was actually $600 for drums and accessories and was paid back in cash."
RDA also requested that a $150.00 check to State Farm be credited to them, as it was "undoubtedly a 'Staddon' account. RDA, WDG/NLG did not use State Farm. This was either paid for Nick and he paid us back or us paying him back for a short term loan from him." I have added the entry as requested on the [[SvsG:2000 Accounting|2000 Accounting]].
I'm not sure if the extensive paperwork regarding the [[Xmas CD Project]] constitutes a request to credit those expenses to the accounting. My understanding is that that was an entirely separate project, with all profits to come from sales of the resulting CD, said sales to be managed by RDA. In other words, Plaintiff was not responsible for compensating any others in the project for expenses incurred.
===Nick Responds===
:'''1.''' "2 EL's for $350????": yes, these are 2 different checks, both from NS/BofD to WDG. (Details to follow shortly.)
:'''2.''' "not responsible for GCEH costs": RDA was ultimately responsible for costs incurred on behalf of GCEH, as Plaintiffs had no contact with GCEH, and all contact was through RDA. Plaintiffs agreed to allow deferral of repayment for a short time, as Defendants and GCEH were both involved in charitable endeavors. I have, however, credited GCEH's payment to RDA account, which should cancel out the charges.
:'''3.''' "cash from Jeremy": I allowed for up to $500 in undocumented cash repayments at end of 2003 accounting. (More details to follow shortly.)
:'''4.''' "Button was Nick's cat": Nope. (More details to follow shortly.)
:'''7.''' These were both checks from NS/BofD to RDA. (More details to follow shortly.)
:'''8.''' Loan was $700 total, in 2 parts ($300 and $400, circa 2001-05-12). (More details to follow shortly.)

Revision as of 22:37, 18 August 2005

Staddon vs. Griever: Accounting

"Accounts" are where there was a simple agreement to provide a service in exchange for a fee. Each one ended up with a net amount due from the Defendants to the Plaintiff.

The Xmas CD Project does not affect the debt situation between Plaintiffs and Defendants because it was an "on spec" investment of time and effort by all parties, in anticipation of profits from sales, with no guarantee that sales would exceed expenses. See Xmas CD Project for details.

Nick Notes

RDA Disputes

RDA disputes the following entries (as taken from notes on the printouts copied by the defense lawyer):

2000

1. "Nick shows an 'emergency loan' on 9/27 and re-payment on 10/9 and adds both to the list of alleged debts. Instead of cancelling out the $350, it doubles it." In other words, the 10/9 repayment should be credited to Defendants. There is also a note next to the 10/9 "NS/BofD #958" entry saying "2 EL's for $350????", which I think is a reiteration of this same comment.
2. "We were not responsible for GCEH costs" next to 2000-01-24 "Hostway: GCEH hosting monthly" entry, and presumably applicable to all entries regarding GCEH.
3. "Paid him cash from Jeremy" next to 2000-11-13 $200 entry

2001

4. "Button was Nick's cat!" next to 2001-03-10 Companion Animal Hospital entry
5. "dedicated server n/c to RDA" next to entries regarding Hostway hosting
6. "should have been a credit?" next to 2001-06-16 entry for $200.00 part 2 of total $600
7. "Nick shows 2 entries acknowledging repayment in the amount of $200 each (one on 6-16 and one on 10/10). He adds both to amount of debits when they should have been subtracted. Instead of balancing out each of the original alleged debits... it doubles each of them... creating an $800 discrepancy."
8. "Additionally, Nick shows a $400 loan for drums. It was actually $600 for drums and accessories and was paid back in cash."

RDA also requested that a $150.00 check to State Farm be credited to them, as it was "undoubtedly a 'Staddon' account. RDA, WDG/NLG did not use State Farm. This was either paid for Nick and he paid us back or us paying him back for a short term loan from him." I have added the entry as requested on the 2000 Accounting.

I'm not sure if the extensive paperwork regarding the Xmas CD Project constitutes a request to credit those expenses to the accounting. My understanding is that that was an entirely separate project, with all profits to come from sales of the resulting CD, said sales to be managed by RDA. In other words, Plaintiff was not responsible for compensating any others in the project for expenses incurred.

Nick Responds

1. "2 EL's for $350????": yes, these are 2 different checks, both from NS/BofD to WDG. (Details to follow shortly.)
2. "not responsible for GCEH costs": RDA was ultimately responsible for costs incurred on behalf of GCEH, as Plaintiffs had no contact with GCEH, and all contact was through RDA. Plaintiffs agreed to allow deferral of repayment for a short time, as Defendants and GCEH were both involved in charitable endeavors. I have, however, credited GCEH's payment to RDA account, which should cancel out the charges.
3. "cash from Jeremy": I allowed for up to $500 in undocumented cash repayments at end of 2003 accounting. (More details to follow shortly.)
4. "Button was Nick's cat": Nope. (More details to follow shortly.)
7. These were both checks from NS/BofD to RDA. (More details to follow shortly.)
8. Loan was $700 total, in 2 parts ($300 and $400, circa 2001-05-12). (More details to follow shortly.)