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Ok, I think I neglected to post an update when I came back up to NC this time -- but it was gonna be a fairly short trip, and I was in a bit of a hurry...
Ok, I think I neglected to post an update when I came back up to NC this time -- but it was gonna be a fairly short trip, and I was in a bit of a hurry...


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W.
W.
==16:07 from Nick==
===Notes===
Apparently at Bubba's request, I sent a similar email (containing the same description of the software) to Juliet at 18:22.
===Message===
{{email header start}}
{{hdrline|Message-ID}}{{msgid|3DA880F4.4000708|redhouse|com}}
{{hdrline|Date|Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:07:16 -0400}}
{{hdrline|From}}{{hdremail|N. Staddon|n|redhouse|com}}
{{hdrline|User-Agent|Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020611}}
{{hdrline|To}}{{email|team|vbz|net}}
{{hdrline|Subject|software description, take 1}}
{{email header stop}}
Bubba asked for a "description of the software" for Juliet, as she had apparently expressed some interest in working with us to develop and/or market it.
I haven't had time to type anything new, but I did come across the following "2-paragraph summary" which I typed up for Lynne back in March:
{{quoteon}}
Brief Summary of "The Software"
A two-paragraph summary requires me to distill The Software down to its essential strengths, and there are so many possible uses for it that I really don't know which ones might prove to be the most useful. So I'll first get into how we use it and then try to touch briefly on what else it could be used for.
As we use it, the software is mainly a way of transforming large amounts of data (numbers, text, and other media) into useful web sites. (We also use it for pre-processing reference tables used by the search engine and the shopping cart system.) Unlike conventional CGI or CGI-like systems (Coldfusion, ASP, etc.),
the data is processed before it reaches the server, on a regular user workstation, allowing for much more involved transformations of the data than would be permissible in real-time environments such as those.
It is essentially a report-generation tool, though unlike other such tools (e.g. Crystal Reports, MS Access reports, etc.) it can generate reports in any text-based format (e.g. HTML, RTF, Word 2000).
This makes it possible to present complex data (such as a fairly large searchable online store with hierarchical cross-referencing) on a very minimal server account -- e.g. vbz.net is on a $20/month shared server, not even "e-commerce" rated. This is possible because most of the pages are simply static
HTML.
Also unlike CGI and its kin, the language we have developed for accomplishing the transformation requires little more than an understanding of essential database concepts. For commercial deployment, templates wizards and a graphical editor could presumably be included to remove even that need for many uses.
I see a significant need for this software in environments where a little more flexibility is needed than a static "template" of the sort used by most commercial HTML software, but not so much flexibility that CGI programming should be needed. Small publications with a regularly-updated online presence; online merchants and wholesalers; [ help me here -- Bubba will confirm I'm always saying "they need our software", but at the moment I can't think of any examples ] could all benefit enormously from this software.
There are several other components we are currently developing which would greatly leverage the power of the software described above as well as being useful in their own right; combined into a suite, we believe they could open significant new markets.
{{quoteoff}}
Some of those "other projects" might actually be easier/quicker to turn into something marketable; if Juliet (or anyone) is seriously interested in investing in its development, I would suggest that I should first create a list of likely candidates for further development and then go over it with the potential
investor. (Followed by whittling the list down to maybe 2-4 strong prospects, which I could write up at greater length, etc.)
If this suggests any questions or other follow-up, please let me know.
Thanks,
N.
==16:19 from Bubba==
{{email header start}}
{{hdrline|Message-ID}}{{msgid|3DA883C2.4020200|vbz|net}}
{{hdrline|Date|Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:19:14 -0400}}
{{hdrline|From|Bubba}} <{{email|b|vbz|net}}>
{{hdrline|User-Agent|Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530}}
{{hdrline|To}}{{hdremail|N. Staddon|n|redhouse|com}}
{{hdrline|Subject|Re: tracker update}}
{{hdrline|References}}{{msgid|3DA8647F.4020200|redhouse|com}}
{{email header stop}}
N., how about leaving this trip open ended and let's try to get a lot of stuff coagulated to make pulling stock easier for here.  Might not take extra days but at least you'd not be itching to "RUN AWAY". 
B.
==18:40 from Bubba==
{{email header start}}
{{hdrline|Message-ID}}{{msgid|3DA8A4E7.6030609|vbz|net}}
{{hdrline|Date|Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:40:39 -0400}}
{{hdrline|From|Bubba}} <{{email|b|vbz|net}}>
{{hdrline|User-Agent|Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530}}
{{hdrline|To}}{{hdremail|N. Staddon|n|redhouse|com}}
{{hdrline|Subject|Re: tracker update}}
{{hdrline|References}}{{msgid|3DA8647F.4020200|redhouse|com}} {{msgid|3DA883C2.4020200|vbz|net}} {{msgid|3DA89DAE.9090208|redhouse|com}}
{{email header stop}}
N. just making my wishes known for figgering into the reality of it all as per our conversation as you were leaving last time. 
B.

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2002 Messages

2001
2002 Overview
2002-01-02
2002-01-04
2002-01-05
2002-01-07
2002-01-19
2002-01-23
2002-01-29
2002-02-01
2002-02-03
2002-02-10
2002-02-13
2002-03-06
2002-03-09
2002-03-11
2002-03-19
2002-03-25
2002-04-08
2002-04-11
2002-04-12
2002-04-25
2002-05-08
2002-05-09
2002-05-11
2002-05-17
2002-05-18
2002-05-22
2002-06-13
2002-06-14
2002-06-29
2002-07-01
2002-07-06
2002-07-07
2002-07-10
2002-07-11
2002-07-15
2002-07-18
2002-08-07
2002-08-08
2002-08-10
2002-08-11
2002-08-12
2002-08-13
2002-08-14
2002-08-18
2002-08-21
2002-08-27
2002-08-29
2002-08-30
2002-08-31
2002-09-05
2002-09-06
2002-09-13
2002-09-15
2002-09-16
2002-09-17
2002-09-20
2002-09-21
2002-09-23
2002-09-24
2002-09-26
2002-09-27
2002-09-28
2002-09-29
2002-09-30
2002-10-01
2002-10-02
2002-10-06
2002-10-07
2002-10-11
2002-10-12
2002/10/16
2002-10-24
2002-10-25
2002-10-26
2002-10-29
2002-10-30
2002-10-31
2002-11-02
2002-11-08
2002-11-11
2002-11-12
2002-11-13
2002-11-14
2002-11-15
2002-11-16
2002-11-17
2002-11-22
2002-11-26
2002-11-28
2002-12-01
2002-12-02
2002-12-09
2002-12-11
2002-12-14
2002-12-17
2002-12-23
2003

Staddon vs. Griever: SvsG Messages: 2002

14:05 from Nick

Notes

This is an email sent to the "woozletracker" mailing list, which was for friends and family who were interested in knowing where I was at any given time, since I was going back and forth between Durham and Athens a great deal. It included the Grievers, so they should have a copy of this email.

The email establishes that even after being most of the way done with moving out of Red House, I was still planning to rent storage for those of my personal belongings which would not easily fit into the available space at Hull Road, and had not been depending on (or planning to use) the Grievers' trailers.

Message

Message-ID: <3DA8647F.4020200spam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 14:05:51 -0400
From: "N. Staddon" <nspam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020611
To: woozletracker-2024-11-24-15:12-spam@hypertwinsspam.org
Subject: tracker update

Ok, I think I neglected to post an update when I came back up to NC this time -- but it was gonna be a fairly short trip, and I was in a bit of a hurry...

Anyway, the plan was to head down again this afternoon, but what with one thing and another I think I'll push it forward to Sunday morning.

The plan is to be in GA long enough to move the rest of the stuff out of the Red House shed and into a local self-storage place, take care of a few things, then head back up. Return ETA is Tuesdayish or possibly Wednesdayish.

Onward,

W.

16:07 from Nick

Notes

Apparently at Bubba's request, I sent a similar email (containing the same description of the software) to Juliet at 18:22.

Message

Message-ID: <3DA880F4.4000708spam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:07:16 -0400
From: "N. Staddon" <nspam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.1a) Gecko/20020611
To: team-2024-11-24-15:12-spam@vbzspam.net
Subject: software description, take 1

Bubba asked for a "description of the software" for Juliet, as she had apparently expressed some interest in working with us to develop and/or market it.

I haven't had time to type anything new, but I did come across the following "2-paragraph summary" which I typed up for Lynne back in March:

Brief Summary of "The Software"

A two-paragraph summary requires me to distill The Software down to its essential strengths, and there are so many possible uses for it that I really don't know which ones might prove to be the most useful. So I'll first get into how we use it and then try to touch briefly on what else it could be used for.

As we use it, the software is mainly a way of transforming large amounts of data (numbers, text, and other media) into useful web sites. (We also use it for pre-processing reference tables used by the search engine and the shopping cart system.) Unlike conventional CGI or CGI-like systems (Coldfusion, ASP, etc.), the data is processed before it reaches the server, on a regular user workstation, allowing for much more involved transformations of the data than would be permissible in real-time environments such as those.

It is essentially a report-generation tool, though unlike other such tools (e.g. Crystal Reports, MS Access reports, etc.) it can generate reports in any text-based format (e.g. HTML, RTF, Word 2000).

This makes it possible to present complex data (such as a fairly large searchable online store with hierarchical cross-referencing) on a very minimal server account -- e.g. vbz.net is on a $20/month shared server, not even "e-commerce" rated. This is possible because most of the pages are simply static HTML.

Also unlike CGI and its kin, the language we have developed for accomplishing the transformation requires little more than an understanding of essential database concepts. For commercial deployment, templates wizards and a graphical editor could presumably be included to remove even that need for many uses.

I see a significant need for this software in environments where a little more flexibility is needed than a static "template" of the sort used by most commercial HTML software, but not so much flexibility that CGI programming should be needed. Small publications with a regularly-updated online presence; online merchants and wholesalers; [ help me here -- Bubba will confirm I'm always saying "they need our software", but at the moment I can't think of any examples ] could all benefit enormously from this software.

There are several other components we are currently developing which would greatly leverage the power of the software described above as well as being useful in their own right; combined into a suite, we believe they could open significant new markets.

Some of those "other projects" might actually be easier/quicker to turn into something marketable; if Juliet (or anyone) is seriously interested in investing in its development, I would suggest that I should first create a list of likely candidates for further development and then go over it with the potential investor. (Followed by whittling the list down to maybe 2-4 strong prospects, which I could write up at greater length, etc.)

If this suggests any questions or other follow-up, please let me know.

Thanks,

N.

16:19 from Bubba

Message-ID: <3DA883C2.4020200spam@spamvbzspam.spamnet>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:19:14 -0400
From: Bubba <b-2024-11-24-15:12-spam@vbzspam.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530
To: "N. Staddon" <nspam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
Subject: Re: tracker update
References: <3DA8647F.4020200spam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>

N., how about leaving this trip open ended and let's try to get a lot of stuff coagulated to make pulling stock easier for here. Might not take extra days but at least you'd not be itching to "RUN AWAY".

B.

18:40 from Bubba

Message-ID: <3DA8A4E7.6030609spam@spamvbzspam.spamnet>
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:40:39 -0400
From: Bubba <b-2024-11-24-15:12-spam@vbzspam.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530
To: "N. Staddon" <nspam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>
Subject: Re: tracker update
References: <3DA8647F.4020200spam@spamredhousespam.spamcom> <3DA883C2.4020200spam@spamvbzspam.spamnet> <3DA89DAE.9090208spam@spamredhousespam.spamcom>

N. just making my wishes known for figgering into the reality of it all as per our conversation as you were leaving last time.

B.