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[[File:2011-01-21 Healthcare Reform banner P1020905.800pxh.jpg|thumb|left|Obama threatened to take away my guns if I didn't make this sign. Really. It wasn't my idea.]]Here at Hypertwin Manor, we had a hand-made banner in our front yard reading "SUPPORT HEALTHCARE REFORM". I had hung it from a tree with fishing line, and the slightest bit of wind tended to bring it down, so I often found myself picking it off the ground and rehanging it shortly before dawn as we waited for [[Josh]]'s bus.

So I hope you'll understand if I get a bit sarcastic when I'm told that we didn't want Obamacare and that it was forced on us. 

No. We wanted ''more'' than we got. We wanted the "public option", which Obama took "off the table" as a concession to Republicans (thanks, guys) -- who then proceeded to unilaterally oppose the watered-down results ''anyway''. (Thanks again.)

I can only conclude that I was somehow brainwashed into thinking that affordable medical care would be a good thing all around -- or perhaps I'm a member of the ruling Liberal Elite and didn't even know it. (This must be what I get for not going to the meetings.)

The bus driver liked our sign, too. Hmm, I can't think what the Liberal Elite is doing letting in riff-raff like that. (Or like your friendly neighborhood [[The Hypertwins|Hypertwins]], for that matter... I'm not sure I want to be a member of any club that would let in disreputable people like us.)

But seriously.
[[File:Tiananmen-square-tank.jpg|thumb|Brave US citizen attempting to prevent Obama's secret Afro-Muslim CareTank Squad from brutally imposing unwanted healthcare (on their way back from confiscating everyone's guns) -- where o where was [[Chuck Norris]] when we needed him??]]
"Of ten polls conducted just prior to the passage of the bill, three found about equal opposition and support, five found a plurality expressing opposition, and two found a majority expressing opposition."<ref name=note1 /> In other words, support was a little less than 50-50 -- hardly a majority being steamrollered by a minority. (The same source notes that support for one of the [[User:Woozle/blog/2011-01-14 0507 Obamacare myth the second|most]] [[User:Woozle/blog/2011-01-14 2140 Obamacare myth the third|contentious]] parts of Obamacare, the "individual mandate", ranged from 56 to 59% when it was mentioned that this would help subsidize those who could not otherwise afford insurance. It also informs us that support for Obamacare overall was well above 50% in the generally less privileged sectors of the population.<ref name=note1a />

And further:

"In March 2010 a CNN poll of 1,030 adult Americans probed opinions about the bill and its relative liberalness. It found that 43% of respondents opposed the bill for being too liberal, and 39% supported the bill and 13% opposed it on the grounds that it was ''not liberal enough''.<ref name=note2 /> The identical question when asked in December 2010 found that 37% opposed the bill for being too liberal, 43% supporting the bill and 13% opposing it on the grounds of being not liberal enough.<ref name=note3 />"

In other words, 52% of Americans in March 2010 and 56% of Americans in December 2010 wanted ''at least'' as much reform as offered by Obamacare.

Repealing it -- at least without installing something as good or better in its place -- would therefore be going against the wishes of more than half of America.

The people  who originated the claim that America didn't want this reform are, plain and simple, liars.
==Footnotes==
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<ref name=note1> http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1003844 via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views</ref>

<ref name=note1a>"support was significantly more likely among ... nonwhites than whites (69% vs. 38%), among people from households with incomes under $50,000 than those from higher-income households (55% vs. 36%)..."</ref>

<ref name=note2>http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/03/22/rel5a.pdf and http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/22/cnn-poll-americans-dont-like-health-care-bill/?fbid=1AOWVNbJBup via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}} -- but note how CNN lumps the "too much" votes in with the "not enough" votes to conclude that "59 percent of those surveyed opposed the bill". It strikes me as [[issuepedia:Interpretive framing|a bit of a stretch]] to interpret ''wanting more'' of something as being equivalent to ''opposing'' it.

One has to wonder what the results would have been had that question been asked in the earlier polls: how much of that a-bit-more-than-half opposition -- now being framed as support for ''repealing the reform altogether'' -- was opposition ''in the hope of getting something better passed?''</ref>

<ref name=note3>http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/images/12/27/rel17h.pdf via {{wikipedia|Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Public_opinions_and_views}}</ref>
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==Addendum==
* Slide 14 of the "Chartpack" PDF linked from [http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/8302.cfm this page] (the results of a Kaiser Health Tracking Poll in April 2012) indicates clearly that most people are in favor of the actual ''provisions'' of Obamacare. (There's data elsewhere which indicates that approval goes down among people who are aware that the provision named is ''part of Obamacare''.)
** '''2012-06-28''' [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/six-charts-to-explain-health-care-polling/2012/06/28/gJQAlBrn8V_blog.html Six charts to explain health-care polling] is a somewhat easier read