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		<title>Woozle: navbar at bottom too</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;navbar at bottom too&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Even then, I hated being called a &amp;quot;guy&amp;quot;, but couldn&amp;#039;t really object to it, because what was she supposed to call me? &amp;quot;Guy&amp;quot; is at least better than &amp;quot;man&amp;quot; or even &amp;quot;boy&amp;quot;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Even then, I hated being called a &amp;quot;guy&amp;quot;, but couldn&amp;#039;t really object to it, because what was she supposed to call me? &amp;quot;Guy&amp;quot; is at least better than &amp;quot;man&amp;quot; or even &amp;quot;boy&amp;quot;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Woozle: prevent include-loop</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;prevent include-loop&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Why are you so out and out against religion? Is there a logical reason for your dislike of it? You sick of it? Think it&amp;#039;s not the answer? I&amp;#039;m sometimes against the religion we have &amp;amp;ndash; the practical stuff. The spiritual stuff wasn&amp;#039;t meant for us to talk about anyway.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Why are you so out and out against religion? Is there a logical reason for your dislike of it? You sick of it? Think it&amp;#039;s not the answer? I&amp;#039;m sometimes against the religion we have &amp;amp;ndash; the practical stuff. The spiritual stuff wasn&amp;#039;t meant for us to talk about anyway.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;{{i/same|navbar}}  &lt;blockquote&gt;Why are you so out and out against religion? Is there a logical reason for your dislike of it? You sick of it? Think it&#039;s not the answer? I&#039;m so...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2017-12-28T12:10:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{i/same|navbar}}  &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Why are you so out and out against religion? Is there a logical reason for your dislike of it? You sick of it? Think it&amp;#039;s not the answer? I&amp;#039;m so...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{i/same|navbar}} &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Why are you so out and out against religion? Is there a logical reason for your dislike of it? You sick of it? Think it&amp;#039;s not the answer? I&amp;#039;m sometimes against the religion we have &amp;amp;ndash; the practical stuff. The spiritual stuff wasn&amp;#039;t meant for us to talk about anyway.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I need to write a great deal more about this, stretching from before the Jenny-era until long after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time, though... I think I mainly just didn&amp;#039;t like the idea of people telling other people to do and believe things that don&amp;#039;t make sense... and especially the idea of this fundamentally &amp;#039;&amp;#039;good&amp;#039;&amp;#039; person being led to buy into beliefs and rituals that were basically &amp;#039;&amp;#039;bad&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since then, I&amp;#039;ve come to understand a lot more about how religion is actively harmful (as opposed to just being something I &amp;quot;dislike&amp;quot;), but also how it&amp;#039;s just one of many tools used by authoritarians to control people. Religion isn&amp;#039;t the problem; authortiarianism is the problem, and authoritarian religion is just one manifestation of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fact that Jenny was sympathetic to it, though, forced me to stop automatically dismissing religion. I had to really think about it, and tended to be way too tolerant of it for another couple of decades.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Chris told me to tell Cindy to go to hell &amp;quot;She has no right to even question your actions.&amp;quot; I&amp;#039;ve got to calm him down a bit. He doesn&amp;#039;t know Cindy. Confirmation is a fading subject &amp;amp;ndash; it wasn&amp;#039;t terrible exciting to begin with.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{markup/relevant|Sometimes I think that it would be good if you got hold of my note book and read it. Though I would probably kill you.}}&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The evidence from Sandy&amp;#039;s memory suggests that we do in fact have Jenny&amp;#039;s notebook in a closet, but it&amp;#039;s going to take some digging to uncover it; it got stashed there during the Josh years. I hope it&amp;#039;s actually there. And then Jenny can arise from her ashes and kill me, and that will be ok.&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope my ongoing undeliverable letter to her is there also (though that seems unlikely) because I can&amp;#039;t seem to find it anywhere. I&amp;#039;m hoping it&amp;#039;s with the Tigger notebooks, wherever it is, because I can&amp;#039;t seem to find them either (and I&amp;#039;m &amp;#039;&amp;#039;pretty&amp;#039;&amp;#039; sure I&amp;#039;ve seen those since moving up here). It&amp;#039;s all a bit nerve-wracking, really. We&amp;#039;re going to go closet-mining sometime after January 1, and see what turns up.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Here I am writing a guy I can talk to in school or call on the phone, while a letter from a guy 400 miles away goes unanswered! &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Nick!&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sigh.&lt;br /&gt;
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I have spent all my time writing this after school..... Do something productive.....&lt;br /&gt;
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:{{markup/comment|line-art that looks vaguely like &amp;quot;LOVE&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Bye for now,&lt;br /&gt;
:M.O.T.C.P.S.A.O.I.G.O.W.T.T.W&lt;br /&gt;
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:P&amp;amp;iacute;czluvv&amp;amp;iacute;k&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;postscript you idiot!&lt;br /&gt;
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Even then, I hated being called a &amp;quot;guy&amp;quot;, but couldn&amp;#039;t really object to it, because what was she supposed to call me? &amp;quot;Guy&amp;quot; is at least better than &amp;quot;man&amp;quot; or even &amp;quot;boy&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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