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		<title>Woozle: Created page with &quot;Sandy&#039;s income is $2000 a month, plus $10k annually (birthday/Xmas gifts) in the Fall/Winter. Almost half the $10k goes to property tax (based on the most recent inflated &quot;val...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Sandy&amp;#039;s income is $2000 a month, plus $10k annually (birthday/Xmas gifts) in the Fall/Winter. Almost half the $10k goes to property tax (based on the most recent inflated &amp;quot;val...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Sandy&amp;#039;s income is $2000 a month, plus $10k annually (birthday/Xmas gifts) in the Fall/Winter. Almost half the $10k goes to property tax (based on the most recent inflated &amp;quot;value&amp;quot; of the house -- which we never had any interest in selling and consequently we don&amp;#039;t actually &amp;#039;&amp;#039;have&amp;#039;&amp;#039; $350k lying around from which we can draw off $4500 every year, but since the real estate industry sets the rules around here we still have to pay it), so realistically that&amp;#039;s more like $5000/year, which makes her total income $29k/year or just over $2400/month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, outgo (rough numbers):&lt;br /&gt;
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Debt:&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;mortgage&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: $750&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;credit cards&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: $1253&lt;br /&gt;
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Spending:&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;utilities&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: $500&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;purchases&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: $2000&lt;br /&gt;
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Obviously the level of purchasing makes everything impossible. I&amp;#039;ve got to look at that more closely and see how much it can be trimmed... but just the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;minimum payments&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (750+1253+500 = $2503) now total more than Sandy&amp;#039;s actual income, even without buying groceries.&lt;br /&gt;
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We&amp;#039;ve been coasting along using the credit cards for groceries and such and paying just the minimums on the cards hoping the [[Josh]] situation would be resolved soon, because at that point two things happen: (1) expenses are reduced somewhat; (2) my time is significantly freed up, so I can spend more time working for clients (i.e. more income) or possibly get a &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; job (not easy even in the best economy and even less likely now, but still possible).&lt;br /&gt;
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The Josh situation remains unresolved, and I don&amp;#039;t see anything happening in the next two months, and we have used up the Christmas money and arrived (as expected) at the point where we don&amp;#039;t quite have enough to pay the minimum charges on the credit cards.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2009-04-07&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; update (started typing on 04/06): I wasn&amp;#039;t done typing this, but a new event has pushed the Date With Disaster off another month or so: Sandy&amp;#039;s mutual fund sent a letter warning that they were going to close one of her two accounts because it fell below $1000, so we decided to cash the whole thing in (a little over $2000) and use that to finish off this month&amp;#039;s bills. Next month, I think we need to lock up the credit cards, go to paying cash (Visa check card) for everything, and send hardship letters to all the credit card companies.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was in the process of contacting a credit counseling agency, but the one I chose has made things difficult by not responding to my email and insisting on using the phone for everything. Maybe I won&amp;#039;t bother with them, or maybe I&amp;#039;ll look for someone else.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, we came up with the idea of setting up a computer for me in Mel&amp;#039;s room so I could work uninterrupted during certain parts of the week and make more money. Right now, I don&amp;#039;t have any allocated spans of time during which I can reasonably expect not to be interrupted, so it&amp;#039;s very difficult to even &amp;#039;&amp;#039;start&amp;#039;&amp;#039; concentrating on a project.&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Down side&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: more expenses (~$500 for a completely new system, hard drive, and monitor); some time required to assemble and get it set up&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Up side&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;: excuse to buy a new LCD monitor and a system board even faster than this one (woo-hoo!) if I can find one for cheap (awww...).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also also, if we can get SSI for Josh, that&amp;#039;s another income stream; we&amp;#039;ve been told it may include back-payments, though not all in a lump. We&amp;#039;ll see what happens with that.&lt;br /&gt;
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I knocked our telecomm expenses down by $50-$70 by reducing DirecTV to the basic plan ($60 -&amp;gt; $30), reducing the [[Vonage]] line from &amp;quot;unlimited&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;500 minutes&amp;quot; ($30-&amp;gt;$20) and moving the [[Verizon]] wired phone line over to Vonage as well, under the same plan ($50 -&amp;gt; $20). We desperately need to get rid of the storage unit ($100/mo) but making room in the house is taking a lot of time (which takes away from money-making activities). I&amp;#039;m thinking I can get rid of [[vbz.net]]&amp;#039;s Vonage line completely (~$20), at least until vbz has staff who would like to have a phone again.&lt;br /&gt;
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A debt-consolidation loan of $160k at 5% (which seems to be the going rate at the moment) comes to about $1100/month, putting total non-discretionary expenses at about $1600, which leaves discretionary spending at about $800/month plus whatever I can bring in.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe that&amp;#039;s the way to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2009-04-07 17:09&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; update: it looks like consolidating the credit cards into the mortgage &amp;#039;&amp;#039;and&amp;#039;&amp;#039; refinancing at &amp;quot;today&amp;#039;s low rates&amp;quot; (5%) means that all the cards together would only add another $100-$150 on top of the mortgage monthly amount. This would leave us with something like $1200 in discretionary spending, which &amp;#039;&amp;#039;ought&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to be enough. The exact numbers will depend on how much they have to jack up the interest rate due to Sandy&amp;#039;s jobless status. (~3 years of on-time payments ought to count for something, I should think, and perhaps they will.)&lt;br /&gt;
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I submitted the application online (yay for online applications!) at CountryWide, and we&amp;#039;ll just have to see what happens.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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