https://hypertwins.org/mw/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=Aero&feedformat=atomHypertWiki - User contributions [en]2024-03-29T00:23:34ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.36.0https://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=HTML_Is_Broken&diff=9153HTML Is Broken2007-05-04T21:27:31Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>I'm sure I've seen this discussed elsewhere, but [[wikipedia:HTML|HTML]] is messed-up.<br />
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It is (now) ostensibly a data-description language which has been corrupted for use as a visual markup language, and it does not serve the needs of either very well. Current planning seems to be heading toward replacing HTML with [[wikipedia:XHTML|XHTML]], which may finally strip the last of the visual markup elements from HTML and push them out into [[wikipedia:CSS|CSS]] (style sheets) where they belong, but the resulting pair of languages is still an awkward tool for creating user interfaces. (I will discuss this more at length.)<br />
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HTML is also internally inconsistent:<br />
*Using &lt;img src=''URL''&gt; syntax, a page may contain images which are defined elsewhere, but a page may not include text defined elsewhere (except via action on the server's part, e.g. [[wikipedia:Server Side Includes|SSI]]). All text within a page is defined within a single file, but there is no way to define images within the same file; this considerably complicates web application programming in some ways.<br />
**[http://www.elf.org/essay/inline-image.html You can embed base64 image data in an IMG tag]. Sadly, limited to <1mb (as with all other HTML tags) and broken in IE (what else is new). You can include external text with JavaScript, though it's a bit inelegant. ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
*Images and tables have some basic characteristics in common, i.e. they are both basically rectangular; HTML's handling of them is also similar in many ways, i.e. either can be aligned flush left or right, so that the rest of the page's contents can wrap around them. Only images, however, can be handled like words in a paragraph, i.e. allowed to wrap when the end of a line is reached. There is no reason why tables should not also have this ability. The lack of this ability prevents linewrapped image sets from having captions, as the only way to give an image a caption is to enclose it within a table. '''2006-04-21 update''': actually this ''can'' be done, by assigning a style of "display: inline" to the tables being shown &ndash; but there are enough technical problems (especially cross-browser compatibility issues) with it that it is of very limited utility.<br />
*'''"Box" elements''' (tables, images):<br />
**Box elements may have their sizes defined as a percentage of the available room. However, this is often handled very poorly -- if the available room is partly blocked by a left- or right- aligned table or image, the blockage is often ignored in calculating the block element's size, which can easily result in elements becoming unintentionally (and uncontrollably) superimposed on top of each other, giving incomprehensible or at least very ugly results.<br />
***I think there are various ways to fix this with CSS ('clear: both'?) or you're experiencing errors in a specific implementation ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
**Although you can specify that a box element should take up 100% of the width of the page ''or'' 100% of the height of the page, there is no way to specify that it should take up 100% of whichever dimension is ''smaller'' (i.e. "fit to page"). This makes it impossible to automatically generate html pages where all images in a series are correctly fitted to print without either being cut off at the sides or spilling over to the next page; the output must be checked by eye and the image tag corrected to be height=100% or width=100% as appropriate.<br />
***Use reasonable fixed print sizes in a separate stylesheet for printing (see below) ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
**A box element cannot be sized relative to another element, unless it is contained by that element. (I'm trying to remember why I needed to do this, but nothing is coming to mind at the moment.)<br />
*The "page" is treated as either being the size of the browser window (e.g. in "height=''x''%" tags), the size of the printable area of a page if the document is printed (or print-previewed), or as an infinitely extendible scroll, depending on context. There is no way for the HTML author to specify which meaning is intended. ''(I know I need to put in an example of this, but can't think of one just now.)''<br />
**Use separate CSS stylesheets for different media types (screen/print/etc.) ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
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This article isn't necessarily finished; it's just written to the point where I ran out of time. I'm planning to discuss what I'd like to see replacing HTML in this article: [[IOML|I/O Markup Language]]<br />
==Notes==<br />
'''To be investigated''': the possibility of using [http://www.enlightenment.org/Libraries/Edje/ Edje] as an alternative method of conveying weblike pages over the internet</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Reunion&diff=1792SluggySquad Reunion2005-05-07T22:48:02Z<p>Aero: for great formatination!</p>
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<div>So, where's it gonna be now? Everyone post suggestions! (Was last scheduled for Sometime In July) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:51, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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Ideally, someone with a big house. Or at least some kind of house. Maybe near some kind of city-type place, where there are things to do. ~ captain obvious, aka [[User:Aero|Aero]] 14:59, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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==Anyone interested in hosting this projectedly nifty thing-type thing?==<br />
{| border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="2" style="font-size:8pt;"<br />
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"<br />
| '''Person's name'''<br />
| '''Accomodations'''<br />
| '''Location'''<br />
| '''Perks of location'''<br />
| '''Other notes'''<br />
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|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"<br />
| ''John Q. Example''<br />
| ''None''<br />
| ''Wellsville USA''<br />
| ''Lots of people named Pete''<br />
| ''No Pete Abrams, though''<br />
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|- bgcolor="#f5f5f5"<br />
| Mechamancer<br />
| maybe one room<br />
| Cincinnati OH<br />
| I have a house with a big room<br />
| I'm seventeen and therefore would have to get my parents permission to have a lot of strangers come over.<br />
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|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"<br />
| Harena & Woozle<br />
| lots of floor space, one couch<br />
| [[Durham, NC]]<br />
| Decent-sized house with too many kids<br />
| Backyard camping is also a possibility, though flat spaces are not so easy to find at the moment. Plenty of hotels in the area, not too expensive.<br />
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|}<br />
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[[Category:SluggySquad]]</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=4096User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:45:24Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
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==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html<br />
#*Check 'enable interval upload'<br />
#**Choose how often you want the image to update. Every minute? Every 5 minutes? Every 15 minutes?<br />
#'''Captions''' on left side<br />
#*Click the notepad with a star button to create a new caption<br />
#**Type stuff you want it to say! Example:<br />
#**:Washi's cam! ~ {dd} {mmm} {yyyy} {t}''<br />
#**All those {dd} etc. things will show the date and time the pic was taken. Nifty, ne?<br />
#**Also set font and colour options, and choose it to appear on the '''Bottom / center'''<br />
#'''Images''' on left side<br />
#*'''Overlay''' submenu of Images<br />
#*Click the folder with magnifying glass and select '''bottom.gif'''<br />
#*Effect should say: Normal, 50% opacity<br />
#When you're done, finally click OK to the preferences! You should only have to do that once.<br />
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From the action menu, you can use the '''Start interval upload''' or '''Stop interval upload''' to make it start or stop the timer. It'll keep uploading images as you set it to for as long as that's on and the program's open. Also note that closing the program leaves it open in the system tray, you'll have to right-click that to close it completely.<br />
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If you want to see a realtime preview, you can select Preview from the Camera menu.</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=196User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:43:28Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
<br />
==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html<br />
#*Check 'enable interval upload'<br />
#**Choose how often you want the image to update. Every minute? Every 5 minutes? Every 15 minutes?<br />
#'''Captions''' on left side<br />
#*Click the notepad with a star button to create a new caption<br />
#**Type stuff you want it to say! Example:<br />
#**:Washi's cam! ~ {dd} {mmm} {yyyy} {t}''<br />
#**All those {dd} etc. things will show the date and time the pic was taken. Nifty, ne?<br />
#**Also set font and colour options, and choose it to appear on the '''Bottom / center'''<br />
#'''Images''' on left side<br />
#*'''Overlay''' submenu of Images<br />
#*Click the folder with magnifying glass and select '''bottom.gif'''<br />
#*Effect should say: Normal, 50% opacity</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=195User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:42:15Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
<br />
==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html<br />
#*Check 'enable interval upload'<br />
#**Choose how often you want the image to update. Every minute? Every 5 minutes? Every 15 minutes?<br />
#'''Captions''' on left side<br />
#*Click the notepad with a star button to create a new caption<br />
#**Type stuff you want it to say! Example:<br />
#**:Washi's cam! ~ {dd} {mmm} {yyyy} {t}''<br />
#**All those {dd} etc. things will show the date and time the pic was taken. Nifty, ne?<br />
#**Also set font and colour options, and choose it to appear on the '''Bottom / center'''</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=194User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:41:56Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
<br />
==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: Washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html<br />
#*Check 'enable interval upload'<br />
#**Choose how often you want the image to update. Every minute? Every 5 minutes? Every 15 minutes?<br />
#'''Captions''' on left side<br />
#*Click the notepad with a star button to create a new caption<br />
#**Type stuff you want it to say! Example:<br />
#**:Washi's cam! ~ {dd} {mmm} {yyyy} {t}''<br />
#**All those {dd} etc. things will show the date and time the pic was taken. Nifty, ne?<br />
#**Also set font and colour options, and choose it to appear on the '''Bottom / center'''</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=193User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:39:06Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
<br />
==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: Washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html<br />
#*Check 'enable interval upload'<br />
#**Choose how often you want the image to update. Every minute? Every 5 minutes? Every 15 minutes?</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User:Aero/Instructions&diff=192User:Aero/Instructions2005-05-03T01:37:27Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Aero's temporary instructions page!<br />
<br />
==ConquerCam setup==<br />
#View menu > Options<br />
#'''Video devices''' on left side<br />
#*Make sure your EyeToy is selected under Device name<br />
#'''Uploading''' on left side<br />
#*Click the 'page' button with a down-pointing arrow, and select 'New FTP site'<br />
#**Hostname: tene.dyndns.org<br />
#**Username: Washi<br />
#**Password: <your password><br />
#**Directory: /home/washi/public_html</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=Ilscorp.net&diff=246Ilscorp.net2005-05-01T18:29:51Z<p>Aero: oops</p>
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<div>[[Category:Business Ratings]]<br />
==Reviews==<br />
I have never dealt with these people, but they mailed me what looked a great deal like a domain renewal notice -- for a domain I had registered through another service ([[bulkregister.com]], whom I recommend). Furthermore, their price was higher -- $35, same as InterNIC aka Network Solutions. I can easily imagine some functionary at a large corporation -- or even a non-technical secretary at a small business -- recognizing the registered domain and unthinkingly "renewing" it through this company, thus costing the business money and quite possibly causing other problems if the domain was set up with other services (e.g. DNS) through its proper registrar. '''Rating:''' eeeville:<br />
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--[[User:Aero|Aero]] 13:29, 1 May 2005 (CDT) adds:<br />
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Remember to put your domain in REGISTRAR-LOCK state to prevent any transfers (intentional or otherwise). If you don't, thanks to ICANN, here's what happens:<br />
#Someone (maybe you, maybe someone else) initiates a transfer with registrar B<br />
#Registrar A, who you actually registered the domain with, sends you an e-mail asking if this is OK.<br />
#*If you respond to the e-mail saying it's okay, it goes through.<br />
#*If you respond to the e-mail saying it's not okay, it doesn't go through.<br />
#*'''If you don't respond to the e-mail, it goes through.'''<br />
Scary, huh? So put your domain in REGISTRAR-LOCK until you actually intend to transfer it!!</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=Ilscorp.net&diff=184Ilscorp.net2005-05-01T18:29:06Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>[[Category:Business Ratings]]<br />
==Reviews==<br />
I have never dealt with these people, but they mailed me what looked a great deal like a domain renewal notice -- for a domain I had registered through another service ([[bulkregister.com]], whom I recommend). Furthermore, their price was higher -- $35, same as InterNIC aka Network Solutions. I can easily imagine some functionary at a large corporation -- or even a non-technical secretary at a small business -- recognizing the registered domain and unthinkingly "renewing" it through this company, thus costing the business money and quite possibly causing other problems if the domain was set up with other services (e.g. DNS) through its proper registrar. '''Rating:''' eeeville:<br />
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--[[User:Aero|Aero]] 13:29, 1 May 2005 (CDT) adds:<br />
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Remember to put your domain in REGISTRAR-LOCK state to prevent any transfers (intentional or otherwise). If you don't, thanks to ICANN, here's what happens:<br />
#Someone (maybe you, maybe someone else) initiates a transfer with registrar B<br />
#Registrar A, who you actually registered the domain with, sends you an e-mail asking if this is OK.<br />
#*If you respond to the e-mail saying it's okay, it goes through.<br />
#*If you respond to the e-mail saying it's okay, it doesn't go through.<br />
#*'''If you don't respond to the e-mail, it goes through.'''<br />
Scary, huh? So put your domain in REGISTRAR-LOCK until you actually intend to transfer it!!</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=Verizon&diff=403Verizon2005-05-01T18:18:21Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>[[Category:Business Ratings]]<br />
[http://verizon.com/ Verizon] is a telecommunications company providing wired and wireless telephone services and [http://verizon.net/ internet]. (See also: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verizon Wikipedia])<br />
=Opinions=<br />
==[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 18:08, 30 Apr 2005 (CST)==<br />
We had a very bad experience with Verizon a couple of years ago. I'll try to dig up the details at a later date; this is just from memory.<br />
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I accidentally entered an old number for [[Earthlink]]'s dial-up service into our gateway computer, which (at the time) was pretty much connected to the internet 24/7 via dial-up since we didn't yet have cable internet. Unfortunately, it turned out that this number had, not too long before, been officially moved out of our toll-free local service area and into the non-toll-free local service area. So there was a small per-minute charge for connection time -- something under a penny per minute, I think. There was, however, no change in the way the number was dialled -- you still didn't have to put a "1" or an area code in front of it. So we merrily reconnected to the internet and had no clue we were being charged until the bill showed up next month, with a charge for about $600 of "local toll" calls . They did not list the numbers called, either, so it was only after some investigation that we figured out that it was the Earthlink number.<br />
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Upon figuring this out, I immediately checked Earthlink's web site for the latest numbers for our area, and changed the number in the dialler. So now "all" we have to deal with is that $600 phone bill, right? Well... another one came in, now totalling about $1200... but I figured (having to guess a bit, since they didn't list when these diamond-plan calls had been made) that maybe this was the bill for the calls made between the previous bill and when I changed the number. So I took no further action, aside from getting ready to ask Verizon to remove the charge.<br />
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And then a third bill came in, and the total was still higher (I seem to recall that it ultimately got to around $3000, though that's inconsistent with the other numbers; as I said, I need to find the actual bills). I frantically double-checked the dialler and found that, of course, my "change" to the dial-up number somehow hadn't been saved; it was still dialling up caviar and truffles for us. This time, after making the change, I rebooted, reconnected, and watched to see that it actually dialled the "new", correct number.<br />
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Verizon flatly refused to remove the charge. I wrote them letters, called them and spoke with several different people... no go. (The story of what happened to the charge after that is... another story; it was fortunately on a number which belonged to a former resident of the house, and ultimately not our responsibility, although I did my darnedest to fix the problem anyway.)<br />
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Verizon's sins in this case consist of the following:<br />
*Having such a thing as a "local toll area" which charges for calls without requiring you to dial a prefix ("1" or an area code)<br />
*Listing only the total of charges for such calls, rather than itemizing<br />
*Refusing to negotiate<br />
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'''Rating:''' yuck. Avoid.<br />
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==[[User:Aero|Aero]] 13:18, 1 May 2005 (CDT)==<br />
Just thought I'd share some of my stuff on some o' these.<br />
:''Having such a thing as a "local toll area"''<br />
As far as I can see, this is a common practice among local telephone companies. For example, my situ. I go to college in [http://www.brockport.edu Brockport], within the 585 area code, Monroe County, and [http://www.visitrochester.com Greater Rochester Area]. My house is in Penfield, about 40 minutes away, within the same area code, county, and... Area. But my family can't call me from their home, because they have no long distance service (this is intentional, actually, to avoid being stiffed by unexpected long distance charges). Dialing the number doesn't require a +1, just the seven digits; but it's long distance, and were it not for the fact that we don't have long-distance, we wouldn't have known. Nickel and diming! The phone book has a complicated map of where you can actually call 'locally' within your 'local' area.<br />
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I was trying to figure out whether or not to get a [http://skype.com/products/skypein/ SkypeIn] number in our area code the other day. I was close to making the purchase, except I noticed the numbers being offered had an unfamiliar prefix. (Phone terminology 101: numbers in the US are (AAA) PPP-NNNN where A=area code, P=prefix, N=number.) I did some [http://www.thedirectory.org/pref/ research] and found the prefix was somewhere on the outerlying fringe of the area code, closer to Buffalo than Rochester, and it's not even listed in our phone book! Needless to say having such a number does me no good if people can't call it as a local call.<br />
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:''Listing only the total of charges for such calls, rather than itemizing''<br />
I've seen this many times too, especially with cell phone companies. Many of them consider it an extra service (= extra $$$) to itemise! Gee, I didn't know paper was getting so expensive, guys!<br />
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:''Refusing to negotiate''<br />
And this seems like pretty much the standard for Corporate America these days. If it was buried in pages of incomprehensible nonsense somewhere, well, it was completely reasonable to expect you to be familiar with it!</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Woozle/to-do&diff=148User talk:Woozle/to-do2005-04-25T02:28:11Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>If you use a slash in the name instead of a space, i.e. [[User:Woozle/To-Do]], it will create an automatic back-link to [[User:Woozle]]. In case you care ;P [http://ps-wiki.org/index.php?title=User:Aero/Stuff_to_add example] ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]] 20:27, 24 Apr 2005 (CST)</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=User_talk:Woozle/to-do&diff=112User talk:Woozle/to-do2005-04-25T02:27:29Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>If you use a slash in the name instead of a space, i.e. [[User:Woozle/To-Do]], it will create an automatic back-link to [[User:Woozle]]. In case you care ;P ~ [[User:Aero|Aero]] 20:27, 24 Apr 2005 (CST)</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=Earth&diff=138Earth2005-04-24T23:36:59Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>[[Category:Local]]<br />
Mostly harmless.<br />
==Countries==<br />
*[[Belgium]]<br />
*[[The Netherlands]] (Holland)<br />
*[[United States]] (USA)</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=2005-04-21&diff=40332005-04-212005-04-23T21:38:49Z<p>Aero: category</p>
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<div>[[SluggySquad Status]]: '''2005-04-21'''<br />
==Transcript==<br />
Time stamps are Eastern Daylight Saving Time. (GMT-4)<br />
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:2005-04-21 14:06:30 <-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:06:37 <whymy> so that means that the socks had been washed first<br />
:2005-04-21 14:06:54 <Ilparazzo> some get lost in the washer, too<br />
:2005-04-21 14:07:05 <Ilparazzo> in the laundry bin, even!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:07:50 <Ilparazzo> but maybe... hmm...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:08:32 <Ilparazzo> just possibly, these socks are stolen to recycle them into subatomic-particle-quantum-state-change-permission-request-forms<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:10 <Ilparazzo> that would be the GUTUBLS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:28 <Ilparazzo> the Grand Unified Theory of Universal Bureaucracy and Lost Socks<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:44 * SI_Coma successfully pronounces that acronym.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:25 <Dr_Quackzalver> Ah. A challenge.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:29 <Ilparazzo> great. that means all the mysteries of the universe are solved.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:35 <Ilparazzo> except one.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:48 <Ilparazzo> what remains, is to understand... women!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:56 <Ilparazzo> any ideas?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:14 <Dr_Quackzalver> No. None at all.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:23 <whymy> they are there just to tempt us and drive us insane<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:52 <Ilparazzo> yes, but WHY?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:21 <whymy> because... um...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:35 <whymy> naughty parts are naughty for a reason?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:43 <Dr_Quackzalver> I know a bit about the WHATS of women, but none of the WHYs.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:46 * SI_Coma has an innate understanding of seatbelts, if that helps.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:12 <Ilparazzo> not really<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:28 <SI_Coma> durn...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:54 <Ilparazzo> guess it's back to the drawing board, then<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:58 <Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:14:46 <Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken. However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:14:57 <Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:10 <Ilparazzo> wow... that sounds ... serious<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:15 <ShadowMaster> Several members actually<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:17 <Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:30 <Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:42 <Dhraakellian> eep...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:08 <Dr_Quackzalver> I see.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:11 <ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:33 <Ilparazzo> i completely fail to see how smm's presence here could endanger the well-being of (a) member(s) of the network...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:17:18 <ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:2005-04-21 14:17:31 <Dr_Quackzalver> But the squeking? And the mewing?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:17 <whymy> I'm just confused<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:34 * Dr_Quackzalver is wondering if this isn't just a joke?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:40 <Ilparazzo> you are not the only one<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:45 <whymy> same<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:58 <Dr_Quackzalver> Good :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:59 <ShadowMaster> This is not a joke unfortunately<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:59 --- Tene[JustBumming] is now known as Tene[JustScandalising]<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:24 <Aero> whoah, what's going on?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:31 <Dhraakellian> well, even if this wasn't the case, Mew was planning to go on hiatus for about a month<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:35 <Dr_Quackzalver> Well, that is unfortunate. :(<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:53 * Aero reads the scrollback and faints<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:54 <Ilparazzo> Aero: noone know except for those who do, and they can't tell<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:59 <Dhraakellian> so, for the short term, at least, we were expecting to be without Mew fairly soon<br />
:2005-04-21 14:20:28 * ShadowMaster nods<br />
:2005-04-21 14:21:02 * Dr_Quackzalver s need for carbohydrates overides his other wishes. He goes to eat food.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:21:07 <-- Dr_Quackzalver has quit (Quit: Off to Worship the comic!)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:11 <Cynapede> whymy, nice /WHOIS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:14 <ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:20 <Cynapede> Some of you newer folks may not realize who I am....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:40 <Aero> perhaps you'd like to put something in the topic to cut down on repeated questions? just a suggestion<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:47 <whymy> heh<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:53 <Cynapede> I am not the leader of any of the sluggy channels; however, I am the Network Administrator on VillageIRC, which is the IRC network that has hosted the sluggy channels<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:17 <Aero> oh, you lead all of virc? i thought that was shadowmaster for some reason ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:31 <Cynapede> Shadow is correct. This was one of the toughest decisions that I've had to make here as a Network Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:45 <Cynapede> ShadowMaster is our technical Administrator here<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:51 <Cynapede> Douglas is a Server Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:54 <Aero> i see<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:55 <Cynapede> I am the Network Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:04 <Cynapede> We work as a team.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:17 <Aero> indeed, such has become apparent<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:30 <Dhraakellian> Mew just IMed me<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:37 <Cynapede> Generally on IRC, in terms of hierarchy, Network Administrator is the top of the food chain.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:38 <Aero> i'm sure we're all grateful for your efforts<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:51 <Ilparazzo> Dhraakellian: anything you can/want to share?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:51 <Cynapede> One final note....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:07 <Cynapede> I realize that many of you have known mew for longer than the sluggy channels have been a part of this network....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:10 <Dhraakellian> (14:23:34) Roolet: I am searching for a new network for squad and the whole channel will be moving within the next few days.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:10 <Dhraakellian> (14:23:45) Roolet: please convey this to the channel.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:17 <Cynapede> The Admin team here respects that relationship very much.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:29 <Cynapede> We hope that you will continue to be friends with her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:42 <Cynapede> You are also still very much welcome here as well.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:47 <Cynapede> :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:58 <Tene[JustScandalising]> I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm here on this network for more reasons than just her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:00 <Aero> for once in my time here, i am free to express the following sentiment: i hope that the sluggy community will remain here, regardless of the events that have transpired.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:16 <Tene[JustScandalising]> I'm not going to leave this network just 'cause she orders me to.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:57 <Dhraakellian> Tene: she's still on AIM, if you want to tell her that directly<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:20 * Dhraakellian has a feeling that there are going to be a lot of tacts being stepped on, to butcher a phrase<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:22 <Cynapede> Whether or not each of you stay is an individual choice. There will be no hard feelings from the IRC Opers and Admins, despite the decision you reach. We hope you will stay with us, but certainly will respect your decision should you not.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:53 <Tene[JustScandalising]> hehe<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:56 <Tene[JustScandalising]> of course<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:17 * Tene[JustScandalising] imagines a Cynnah sneaksing into his house and saying "Bad TeneShoes! You left the network! That's not allowed!"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:27 <Tene[JustScandalising]> and then transforming into SuperMechaCynnah.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:34 <Ilparazzo> ... with a baseball bat<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:40 <Cynapede> ROFL<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:46 <Cynapede> Y'all are silly...but great :D<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:02 <Dhraakellian> being very much aware how much blunt copying and pasting of things to people can hurt, how much of this is Mew being copied in on?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:33 <Cynapede> Dhraak, none of the IRC Opers or Admins are conveying anything to mew.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:47 <Cynapede> That, I can guarantee.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:30:32 <Tene[JustScandalising]> From her general attitude and things that she has said and done, I feel no desire to "follow" her, and am much more comfortable with the network now that she's gone.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:02 <whymy> I'm going to follow<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:15 <Tene[JustScandalising]> You'll be missed.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:24 <whymy> oh well<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:35 <CommS007> (>o__o)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:42 * Ilparazzo isn't understanding any of this and therefore witholds comment<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:51 <Aero> lol comms, i didn't even know you were in here XD<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:53 <Douglas> There is no reason why you can't be on both, just an FYI.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:06 <CommS007> yeah I snuck in a bit earlier (o__o<)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:06 <Cynapede> Douglas, that's correct.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:14 <Cynapede> We're not asking y'all to choose between us.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:19 <Cynapede> Quite the contrary.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:20 <Tene[JustScandalising]> There is for me.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:21 * Douglas abuses CommS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:26 <Cynapede> We have no way of making you choose one or the other.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:30 <CommS007> (x__x<) *tries to flee*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:36 <Aero> i choose you, pika!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:39 <Aero> !teneis Pikachu<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:39 --- Tene[JustScandalising] is now known as TeneIsPikachu<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:45 * Cynapede puts a FLEE collar on Comm.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:45 <TeneIsPikachu> She'll ask us to.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:48 <TeneIsPikachu> Pika!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:49 <mundungu> Well, it was fun while it lasted folks.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:05 * CommS007 paws at it (~x__x)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:15 <Douglas> Soops :(<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:37 <TeneIsPikachu> I'll miss you, Super.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:34:03 <Cynapede> *huggles SU* Understand your loyalty to mew, but hate to seeya go. Take care.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:34:21 <Cynapede> You're always welcome here :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:19 <TeneIsPikachu> Knowing mew, I rather suspect that she'll consider anyone who remains on this network to be a "Traitor"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:45 <Ilparazzo> ???<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:47 <Aero> who mew thinks is a 'traitor' is no longer relevant in these parts.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:33 <TeneIsPikachu> Cynnah: PM?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:35 <Cynapede> *eyeballs the La-Z-Pede, but doesn't see her blanket on it*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:44 <Cynapede> Sure, Tene...real quick :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:48 <Cynapede> (about time to sleep)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:19 <TeneIsPikachu> thx<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:23 * TeneIsPikachu huggle cynnah.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:44 * TeneIsPikachu gets all covered in sticky cynnamon frosting.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:21 <Cynapede> LOL<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:22 <whymy> message from mew<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:27 <whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): "The sluggysquad channel on this network will be closed and a forbid will be put on it. No one will be able to use it as it stands. I don't care if people continue to join VillageIRC to talk with people who remain, but the official sluggysquad will be on the new network. I've already found a new home for us and am establishing the channel as we speak.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:33 <whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): I think you'll like the new network quite a bit, we're moving to scifi-net<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:56 <Aero> i might point out that sluggysquad was purposely never 'official', and that there was a reason for that.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:26 <TeneIsPikachu> and I'd like to point out that there's no way to 'close' a chennel, especially for her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:29 <Aero> nothing makes this channel any less official than any other sluggy channel that exists.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:44 <Dhraakellian> TeneIsPikachu, Pete's trademark and such?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:45 <TeneIsPikachu> except putting a +b *!*.* on it, I guess<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:50 * mundungu can't leave *this* network, Wonda is here.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:15 <Aero> well, there sort of is, but she doesn't seem to be in any position to do anything about this channel, other than call it names.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:24 <Cynapede> Su, as we said...you're welcome on both networks (this one and wherever mew takes her sluggy business)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:30 <Cynapede> No reason you can't chat on both.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:32 <TeneIsPikachu> Dhr: not really, no.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:34 <Cynapede> You're more than welcome here :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:43 <mundungu> But then... it's no longer so convenient! *cries*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:49 <Dhraakellian> oy...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:17 <Aero> i don't recall seeing a 'trademark' symbol on anything sluggy... and as i stated in a previous discussion, you can't copyright a phrase of only a few words such as 'sluggy freelance'.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:41 <Dhraakellian> Aero, thus the "and such"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:44 * Douglas reminds dung dude that he owes him a noogie the next time they meet again!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:01 <Douglas> NOOGIE! FEAR MY NOOGIE, SOOPS!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:01 <Douglas> hehe<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:02 <mundungu> Aww shucks Douglas<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:17 <Dhraakellian> the chans have been "unofficially official" or "officially unofficial"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:35 <mundungu> Creamy filling.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:40 <Aero> but have you thought about what you mean by that?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:49 <Dhraakellian> my understanding is that Pete knows about it and doesn't mind. I'm not sure what he'd think of the split<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:18 <TeneIsPikachu> except he really can't do anything regardless of what he thinks anyway<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:27 <Douglas> If needed, I can provide a java interface for java chatters here on TheRealms.net, or people can use villageirc's interface<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:47 <Aero> he could register 'sluggy freelance' as a trademark, but that probably costs money and i doubt he cares that much.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:01 <TeneIsPikachu> mew, regardless of what she so often claims, does not own "sluggysquad" or any of the people that chat there.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:07 <ShadowMaster> http://beta2.villageirc.net/Java-Chat for anyone who wishes to use it<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:14 <Dhraakellian> (14:42:53) Roolet: the new network is scifi-net<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:25 <Aero> oh neat, villageirc has a wiki?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:35 <Dhraakellian> (14:42:58) Roolet: servers are: &lt;I'm not gonna flood it unless people want&gt;<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:38 <ShadowMaster> Not quite<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:44 * Cynapede finds blanket, takes it over to da La-Z-Pede, crawls in, leeeeeeans back, 'n gets comfy....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:45 <Aero> people can google, nick..<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:45 <TeneIsPikachu> "12:39 <+whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): I think you'll like the new network quite a bit, we're moving to scifi-net"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:48 <CommS007> ( o.o)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:55 <Dhraakellian> yeah<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:57 <ShadowMaster> But its the soon to be launched new website<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:00 <TeneIsPikachu> *huggles Cynnah*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:03 <Dhraakellian> (14:43:08) Roolet: sluggysquad has been founded.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:03 <Dhraakellian> (14:43:11) Roolet: I'm making the other chans now.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:14 <Aero> oic<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:20 <Aero> it looked a lot like mediawiki for a minute there<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:27 <Aero> the design is based on monobook, isn't it?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:27 --- Cynapede is now known as Cynapede_ZzZzZz<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:35 <Cynapede_ZzZzZz> Time for sleep...Nytol :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:35 <Aero> somewhat-slightly? ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:37 <CommS007> nytol <br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:41 <CommS007> (^z_z)^<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:47 <TeneIsPikachu> I'm strongly considering not showing up there at all.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:00 <Dhraakellian> as am I<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:03 <ShadowMaster> Its a monobook theme yes, chosen for its simplicity and the fact that we dont have anyone to design a layout<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:05 <Dhraakellian> but I'm not sure<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:07 <whymy> If you don't want to, don't<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:24 <TeneIsPikachu> the only thing that would make me show up there even sometimes would be if there were people that I really liked that went there and abandoned here.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:32 <TeneIsPikachu> but I don't anticipate that.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:36 <Dhraakellian> oy... I'm almost wondering if some of this should be dragged to #politics<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:41 <TeneIsPikachu> prolly<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:59 <TeneIsPikachu> /join #sluggypolitics<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:01 <Aero> looks like you're the authority figure for the time being, nick ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:02 <TeneIsPikachu> >.><br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:24 <Dhraakellian> oy<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:25 <Dhraakellian> oy<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:27 <Dhraakellian> OY!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:53 <ShadowMaster> Dhraakellian: Only sluggy staffer awake huh<br />
:2005-04-21 14:48:13 <Dhraakellian> or non-afk<br />
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[[Category:SluggySquad]]</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=Category:SluggySquad&diff=4063Category:SluggySquad2005-04-23T21:36:24Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Pages relating to [[SluggySquad]]. The main channel is [irc://irc.villageirc.net/sluggysquad #sluggysquad] on irc.villageirc.net.</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Status&diff=94SluggySquad Status2005-04-23T21:35:38Z<p>Aero: category</p>
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<div>This is an interim area for collecting information relating to the status of SluggySquad as it goes through (insert appropriate euphemism here).<br />
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== Current Status ==<br />
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[[User:Harena|Harena]] has been given ownership of the Sluggy channels, as requested by Mew.<br />
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We have contacted Thyla; she indicated that we will be maintaining the same relationship with them that we had prior to now, which is that SluggySquad has always been treated as an independent community much like the MARE and the mailing list in that they exert no control or influence over it. She also said that they will continue to come to us for any future Pete Chats, although that didn't appear likely in the near future due to extreme busyness. --[[User:Vee|Vee]] 22:34, 21 Apr 2005 (PDT) (with edits by Woozle)<br />
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*Sluggypics is unreleated to squad. I'll keep maintaining this portion of the sluggy fan webspace. --[[User:Galatea|Galatea]] 15:45, 22 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
*The Mew ftp download server will also continue to be available. (per AIM from Mew 4/22 6:30pm EDT)<br />
*Harena is purchasing the sluggysquad.com domain from Mew (Galatea) for $50.<br />
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== What Happened ==<br />
At 2:06 pm EDT 2005-04-21, SqueakyMewMew, founder and owner of the SluggySquad family of channels (#sluggysquad, #sluggyafterdark, #sluggytoys, #sluggycrafts, #sluggycounsel) was akilled from the VillageIRC network:<br />
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*<-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
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SqueakyMewMew sent the network owners a polite goodbye email and has relinquished ownership of all the Sluggy channels. Discussions are now underway to determine what will happen next.<br />
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Watch this page for updates.<br />
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--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:28, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
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This decision was made (as I understand it) by the owners of the network. I was not involved in the discussions leading up to this, but I support the network's decision -- although I am also very sorry to see Mew go; more about this later.<br />
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--[[User:Dhraakellian|Dhraakellian]] 15:26, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
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The current plan is to continue the channels in more or less their present form, on the same network. There may be some minor changes in the chanop team.<br />
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--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:15, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
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As I understand it, Mew initially considered moving the Sluggy chans over to a new network but ultimately decided against.<br />
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==Partial transcript==<br />
Here's part of what the network administrators had to say in #sluggysquad. '''Emphasis''' has been added by [[User:Aero|me]]. (time=EDT)<br />
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:[02:13pm] <+Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. '''For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken.''' However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:[02:14pm] <+ShadowMaster> Several members actually<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:[02:15pm] <+ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:[02:17pm] <+ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:[02:21pm] <+ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
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And here is Mew's eventual decision: (time=MDT)<br />
:(13:22:25) squeakymewmew: I've decided not to move the channels<br />
:(13:22:37) squeakymewmew: I'm sending an email to the chanops and to the network staff appointing Harena as the new owner in my stead<br />
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*Link to complete transcript deleted for protection of my reputation. Libelous transcripts do not need to be put out for everyone to see. --[[User:Galatea|Galatea]] 15:47, 22 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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== Issues ==<br />
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*(4/23) We will be getting the domain sluggysquad.com, but not (as I understand it) the splash page, most importantly the images thereon, nor did we ask about the animated GIF from the wiki. Should we ask, or just create our own?<br />
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==Related Articles==<br />
[[The SquadWiki Deletion of 2005]]<br />
==Related Links==<br />
*[http://sluggypics.cutefuzzy.net SluggyPics]<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ Mew's livejournal]<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com]<br />
*[http://www.cutefuzzy.net/ CuteFuzzy.net]: Mew's project site<br />
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<div>So, where's it gonna be now? Everyone post suggestions! (Was last scheduled for Sometime In July) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:51, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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Ideally, someone with a big house. Or at least some kind of house. Maybe near some kind of city-type place, where there are things to do. ~ captain obvious, aka [[User:Aero|Aero]] 14:59, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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==Anyone interested in hosting this projectedly nifty thing-type thing?==<br />
{| border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="2"<br />
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"<br />
| '''Person's name'''<br />
| '''Accomodations'''<br />
| '''Location'''<br />
| '''Perks of location'''<br />
| '''Other notes'''<br />
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|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"<br />
| ''John Q. Example''<br />
| ''None''<br />
| ''Wellsville USA''<br />
| ''Lots of people named Pete''<br />
| ''No Pete Abrams, though''<br />
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|}<br />
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<div>This is a holding page for SluggySquad wiki stuff until the squadwiki is back online (which should be soon). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:31, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
==Related Sites==<br />
*[http://sluggypics.cutefuzzy.net SluggyPics] - gallery of rougueish hgugles<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com] - squadwiki will be here<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/community/sluggysquad/ sluggysquad livejournal] - come on in and drop a pin!<br />
==Member Pages==<br />
*squeakymewmew (aka [[User:Galatea|Galatea]]):<br />
**[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ livejournal]<br />
**[http://www.cutefuzzy.net/ CuteFuzzy.net] - project site<br />
*[[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
*[[User:Harena|Harena]]<br />
*[[User:Woozle|Woozle]]<br />
==Related Pages==<br />
*[[SluggySquad Reunion]]<br />
*[[SluggySquad Status]]<br />
*[[The SquadWiki Deletion of 2005]]<br />
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<div>This is a holding page for SluggySquad wiki stuff until the squadwiki is back online (which should be soon). --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:31, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
==Related Sites==<br />
*[http://sluggypics.cutefuzzy.net SluggyPics] - gallery of rougueish hgugles<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com] - squadwiki will be here<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/community/sluggysquad/ sluggysquad livejournal] - come on in and drop a pin!<br />
==Member Pages==<br />
*squeakymewmew (aka [[User:Galatea|Galatea]]):<br />
**[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ livejournal]<br />
**[http://www.cutefuzzy.net/ CuteFuzzy.net] - project site<br />
*[[User:Aero|Aero]]<br />
*[[User:Harena|Harena]]<br />
*[[User:Woozle|Woozle]]<br />
==Related Pages==<br />
*[[SluggySquad Reuinion]]<br />
*[[SluggySquad Status]]<br />
*[[The SquadWiki Deletion of 2005]]<br />
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<div>So, where's it gonna be now? Everyone post suggestions! (Was last scheduled for Sometime In July) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:51, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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Ideally, someone with a big house. Or at least some kind of house. Maybe near some kind of city-type place, where there are things to do. ~ captain obvious, aka [[User:Aero|Aero]] 14:59, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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==Anyone interested in hosting this projectedly nifty thing-type thing?==<br />
{| border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="2"<br />
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"<br />
| '''Person's name'''<br />
| '''Accomodations'''<br />
| '''Location'''<br />
| '''Perks of location'''<br />
| '''Other notes'''<br />
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|- bgcolor="#eeeeee"<br />
| ''John Q. Example''<br />
| ''None''<br />
| ''Wellsville USA''<br />
| ''Lots of people named Pete''<br />
| ''No Pete Abrams, though''<br />
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|}</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Reunion&diff=87SluggySquad Reunion2005-04-23T20:59:07Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>So, where's it gonna be now? Everyone post suggestions! (Was last scheduled for Sometime In July) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:51, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)<br />
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Ideally, someone with a big house. Or at least some kind of house. Maybe near some kind of city-type place, where there are things to do. ~ captain obvious, aka [[User:Aero|Aero]] 14:59, 23 Apr 2005 (CST)</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=2005-04-21&diff=922005-04-212005-04-21T21:11:56Z<p>Aero: there's no such thing as 'daylight savings time' ^_~</p>
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<div>[[SluggySquad Status]]: '''2005-04-21'''<br />
==Transcript==<br />
Time stamps are Eastern Daylight Saving Time. (GMT-4)<br />
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:2005-04-21 14:06:30 <-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:06:37 <whymy> so that means that the socks had been washed first<br />
:2005-04-21 14:06:54 <Ilparazzo> some get lost in the washer, too<br />
:2005-04-21 14:07:05 <Ilparazzo> in the laundry bin, even!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:07:50 <Ilparazzo> but maybe... hmm...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:08:32 <Ilparazzo> just possibly, these socks are stolen to recycle them into subatomic-particle-quantum-state-change-permission-request-forms<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:10 <Ilparazzo> that would be the GUTUBLS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:28 <Ilparazzo> the Grand Unified Theory of Universal Bureaucracy and Lost Socks<br />
:2005-04-21 14:09:44 * SI_Coma successfully pronounces that acronym.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:25 <Dr_Quackzalver> Ah. A challenge.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:29 <Ilparazzo> great. that means all the mysteries of the universe are solved.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:35 <Ilparazzo> except one.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:48 <Ilparazzo> what remains, is to understand... women!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:10:56 <Ilparazzo> any ideas?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:14 <Dr_Quackzalver> No. None at all.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:23 <whymy> they are there just to tempt us and drive us insane<br />
:2005-04-21 14:11:52 <Ilparazzo> yes, but WHY?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:21 <whymy> because... um...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:35 <whymy> naughty parts are naughty for a reason?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:43 <Dr_Quackzalver> I know a bit about the WHATS of women, but none of the WHYs.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:12:46 * SI_Coma has an innate understanding of seatbelts, if that helps.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:12 <Ilparazzo> not really<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:28 <SI_Coma> durn...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:54 <Ilparazzo> guess it's back to the drawing board, then<br />
:2005-04-21 14:13:58 <Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:14:46 <Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken. However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:14:57 <Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:10 <Ilparazzo> wow... that sounds ... serious<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:15 <ShadowMaster> Several members actually<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:17 <Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:30 <Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:15:42 <Dhraakellian> eep...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:08 <Dr_Quackzalver> I see.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:11 <ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:2005-04-21 14:16:33 <Ilparazzo> i completely fail to see how smm's presence here could endanger the well-being of (a) member(s) of the network...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:17:18 <ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:2005-04-21 14:17:31 <Dr_Quackzalver> But the squeking? And the mewing?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:17 <whymy> I'm just confused<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:34 * Dr_Quackzalver is wondering if this isn't just a joke?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:40 <Ilparazzo> you are not the only one<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:45 <whymy> same<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:58 <Dr_Quackzalver> Good :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:59 <ShadowMaster> This is not a joke unfortunately<br />
:2005-04-21 14:18:59 --- Tene[JustBumming] is now known as Tene[JustScandalising]<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:24 <Aero> whoah, what's going on?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:31 <Dhraakellian> well, even if this wasn't the case, Mew was planning to go on hiatus for about a month<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:35 <Dr_Quackzalver> Well, that is unfortunate. :(<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:53 * Aero reads the scrollback and faints<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:54 <Ilparazzo> Aero: noone know except for those who do, and they can't tell<br />
:2005-04-21 14:19:59 <Dhraakellian> so, for the short term, at least, we were expecting to be without Mew fairly soon<br />
:2005-04-21 14:20:28 * ShadowMaster nods<br />
:2005-04-21 14:21:02 * Dr_Quackzalver s need for carbohydrates overides his other wishes. He goes to eat food.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:21:07 <-- Dr_Quackzalver has quit (Quit: Off to Worship the comic!)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:11 <Cynapede> whymy, nice /WHOIS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:14 <ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:20 <Cynapede> Some of you newer folks may not realize who I am....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:40 <Aero> perhaps you'd like to put something in the topic to cut down on repeated questions? just a suggestion<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:47 <whymy> heh<br />
:2005-04-21 14:22:53 <Cynapede> I am not the leader of any of the sluggy channels; however, I am the Network Administrator on VillageIRC, which is the IRC network that has hosted the sluggy channels<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:17 <Aero> oh, you lead all of virc? i thought that was shadowmaster for some reason ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:31 <Cynapede> Shadow is correct. This was one of the toughest decisions that I've had to make here as a Network Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:45 <Cynapede> ShadowMaster is our technical Administrator here<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:51 <Cynapede> Douglas is a Server Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:54 <Aero> i see<br />
:2005-04-21 14:23:55 <Cynapede> I am the Network Admin.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:04 <Cynapede> We work as a team.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:17 <Aero> indeed, such has become apparent<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:30 <Dhraakellian> Mew just IMed me<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:37 <Cynapede> Generally on IRC, in terms of hierarchy, Network Administrator is the top of the food chain.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:38 <Aero> i'm sure we're all grateful for your efforts<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:51 <Ilparazzo> Dhraakellian: anything you can/want to share?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:24:51 <Cynapede> One final note....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:07 <Cynapede> I realize that many of you have known mew for longer than the sluggy channels have been a part of this network....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:10 <Dhraakellian> (14:23:34) Roolet: I am searching for a new network for squad and the whole channel will be moving within the next few days.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:10 <Dhraakellian> (14:23:45) Roolet: please convey this to the channel.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:17 <Cynapede> The Admin team here respects that relationship very much.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:29 <Cynapede> We hope that you will continue to be friends with her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:42 <Cynapede> You are also still very much welcome here as well.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:47 <Cynapede> :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:25:58 <Tene[JustScandalising]> I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm here on this network for more reasons than just her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:00 <Aero> for once in my time here, i am free to express the following sentiment: i hope that the sluggy community will remain here, regardless of the events that have transpired.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:16 <Tene[JustScandalising]> I'm not going to leave this network just 'cause she orders me to.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:26:57 <Dhraakellian> Tene: she's still on AIM, if you want to tell her that directly<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:20 * Dhraakellian has a feeling that there are going to be a lot of tacts being stepped on, to butcher a phrase<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:22 <Cynapede> Whether or not each of you stay is an individual choice. There will be no hard feelings from the IRC Opers and Admins, despite the decision you reach. We hope you will stay with us, but certainly will respect your decision should you not.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:53 <Tene[JustScandalising]> hehe<br />
:2005-04-21 14:27:56 <Tene[JustScandalising]> of course<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:17 * Tene[JustScandalising] imagines a Cynnah sneaksing into his house and saying "Bad TeneShoes! You left the network! That's not allowed!"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:27 <Tene[JustScandalising]> and then transforming into SuperMechaCynnah.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:34 <Ilparazzo> ... with a baseball bat<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:40 <Cynapede> ROFL<br />
:2005-04-21 14:28:46 <Cynapede> Y'all are silly...but great :D<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:02 <Dhraakellian> being very much aware how much blunt copying and pasting of things to people can hurt, how much of this is Mew being copied in on?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:33 <Cynapede> Dhraak, none of the IRC Opers or Admins are conveying anything to mew.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:29:47 <Cynapede> That, I can guarantee.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:30:32 <Tene[JustScandalising]> From her general attitude and things that she has said and done, I feel no desire to "follow" her, and am much more comfortable with the network now that she's gone.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:02 <whymy> I'm going to follow<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:15 <Tene[JustScandalising]> You'll be missed.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:24 <whymy> oh well<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:35 <CommS007> (>o__o)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:42 * Ilparazzo isn't understanding any of this and therefore witholds comment<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:51 <Aero> lol comms, i didn't even know you were in here XD<br />
:2005-04-21 14:31:53 <Douglas> There is no reason why you can't be on both, just an FYI.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:06 <CommS007> yeah I snuck in a bit earlier (o__o<)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:06 <Cynapede> Douglas, that's correct.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:14 <Cynapede> We're not asking y'all to choose between us.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:19 <Cynapede> Quite the contrary.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:20 <Tene[JustScandalising]> There is for me.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:21 * Douglas abuses CommS<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:26 <Cynapede> We have no way of making you choose one or the other.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:30 <CommS007> (x__x<) *tries to flee*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:36 <Aero> i choose you, pika!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:39 <Aero> !teneis Pikachu<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:39 --- Tene[JustScandalising] is now known as TeneIsPikachu<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:45 * Cynapede puts a FLEE collar on Comm.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:45 <TeneIsPikachu> She'll ask us to.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:48 <TeneIsPikachu> Pika!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:32:49 <mundungu> Well, it was fun while it lasted folks.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:05 * CommS007 paws at it (~x__x)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:15 <Douglas> Soops :(<br />
:2005-04-21 14:33:37 <TeneIsPikachu> I'll miss you, Super.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:34:03 <Cynapede> *huggles SU* Understand your loyalty to mew, but hate to seeya go. Take care.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:34:21 <Cynapede> You're always welcome here :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:19 <TeneIsPikachu> Knowing mew, I rather suspect that she'll consider anyone who remains on this network to be a "Traitor"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:45 <Ilparazzo> ???<br />
:2005-04-21 14:35:47 <Aero> who mew thinks is a 'traitor' is no longer relevant in these parts.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:33 <TeneIsPikachu> Cynnah: PM?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:35 <Cynapede> *eyeballs the La-Z-Pede, but doesn't see her blanket on it*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:44 <Cynapede> Sure, Tene...real quick :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:36:48 <Cynapede> (about time to sleep)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:19 <TeneIsPikachu> thx<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:23 * TeneIsPikachu huggle cynnah.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:37:44 * TeneIsPikachu gets all covered in sticky cynnamon frosting.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:21 <Cynapede> LOL<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:22 <whymy> message from mew<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:27 <whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): "The sluggysquad channel on this network will be closed and a forbid will be put on it. No one will be able to use it as it stands. I don't care if people continue to join VillageIRC to talk with people who remain, but the official sluggysquad will be on the new network. I've already found a new home for us and am establishing the channel as we speak.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:33 <whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): I think you'll like the new network quite a bit, we're moving to scifi-net<br />
:2005-04-21 14:38:56 <Aero> i might point out that sluggysquad was purposely never 'official', and that there was a reason for that.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:26 <TeneIsPikachu> and I'd like to point out that there's no way to 'close' a chennel, especially for her.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:29 <Aero> nothing makes this channel any less official than any other sluggy channel that exists.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:44 <Dhraakellian> TeneIsPikachu, Pete's trademark and such?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:45 <TeneIsPikachu> except putting a +b *!*.* on it, I guess<br />
:2005-04-21 14:39:50 * mundungu can't leave *this* network, Wonda is here.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:15 <Aero> well, there sort of is, but she doesn't seem to be in any position to do anything about this channel, other than call it names.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:24 <Cynapede> Su, as we said...you're welcome on both networks (this one and wherever mew takes her sluggy business)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:30 <Cynapede> No reason you can't chat on both.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:32 <TeneIsPikachu> Dhr: not really, no.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:34 <Cynapede> You're more than welcome here :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:43 <mundungu> But then... it's no longer so convenient! *cries*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:40:49 <Dhraakellian> oy...<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:17 <Aero> i don't recall seeing a 'trademark' symbol on anything sluggy... and as i stated in a previous discussion, you can't copyright a phrase of only a few words such as 'sluggy freelance'.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:41 <Dhraakellian> Aero, thus the "and such"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:41:44 * Douglas reminds dung dude that he owes him a noogie the next time they meet again!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:01 <Douglas> NOOGIE! FEAR MY NOOGIE, SOOPS!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:01 <Douglas> hehe<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:02 <mundungu> Aww shucks Douglas<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:17 <Dhraakellian> the chans have been "unofficially official" or "officially unofficial"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:35 <mundungu> Creamy filling.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:40 <Aero> but have you thought about what you mean by that?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:42:49 <Dhraakellian> my understanding is that Pete knows about it and doesn't mind. I'm not sure what he'd think of the split<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:18 <TeneIsPikachu> except he really can't do anything regardless of what he thinks anyway<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:27 <Douglas> If needed, I can provide a java interface for java chatters here on TheRealms.net, or people can use villageirc's interface<br />
:2005-04-21 14:43:47 <Aero> he could register 'sluggy freelance' as a trademark, but that probably costs money and i doubt he cares that much.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:01 <TeneIsPikachu> mew, regardless of what she so often claims, does not own "sluggysquad" or any of the people that chat there.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:07 <ShadowMaster> http://beta2.villageirc.net/Java-Chat for anyone who wishes to use it<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:14 <Dhraakellian> (14:42:53) Roolet: the new network is scifi-net<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:25 <Aero> oh neat, villageirc has a wiki?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:35 <Dhraakellian> (14:42:58) Roolet: servers are: &lt;I'm not gonna flood it unless people want&gt;<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:38 <ShadowMaster> Not quite<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:44 * Cynapede finds blanket, takes it over to da La-Z-Pede, crawls in, leeeeeeans back, 'n gets comfy....<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:45 <Aero> people can google, nick..<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:45 <TeneIsPikachu> "12:39 <+whymy> squeakymewmew (1:37 PM): I think you'll like the new network quite a bit, we're moving to scifi-net"<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:48 <CommS007> ( o.o)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:55 <Dhraakellian> yeah<br />
:2005-04-21 14:44:57 <ShadowMaster> But its the soon to be launched new website<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:00 <TeneIsPikachu> *huggles Cynnah*<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:03 <Dhraakellian> (14:43:08) Roolet: sluggysquad has been founded.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:03 <Dhraakellian> (14:43:11) Roolet: I'm making the other chans now.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:14 <Aero> oic<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:20 <Aero> it looked a lot like mediawiki for a minute there<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:27 <Aero> the design is based on monobook, isn't it?<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:27 --- Cynapede is now known as Cynapede_ZzZzZz<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:35 <Cynapede_ZzZzZz> Time for sleep...Nytol :)<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:35 <Aero> somewhat-slightly? ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:37 <CommS007> nytol <br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:41 <CommS007> (^z_z)^<br />
:2005-04-21 14:45:47 <TeneIsPikachu> I'm strongly considering not showing up there at all.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:00 <Dhraakellian> as am I<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:03 <ShadowMaster> Its a monobook theme yes, chosen for its simplicity and the fact that we dont have anyone to design a layout<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:05 <Dhraakellian> but I'm not sure<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:07 <whymy> If you don't want to, don't<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:24 <TeneIsPikachu> the only thing that would make me show up there even sometimes would be if there were people that I really liked that went there and abandoned here.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:32 <TeneIsPikachu> but I don't anticipate that.<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:36 <Dhraakellian> oy... I'm almost wondering if some of this should be dragged to #politics<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:41 <TeneIsPikachu> prolly<br />
:2005-04-21 14:46:59 <TeneIsPikachu> /join #sluggypolitics<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:01 <Aero> looks like you're the authority figure for the time being, nick ;P<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:02 <TeneIsPikachu> >.><br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:24 <Dhraakellian> oy<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:25 <Dhraakellian> oy<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:27 <Dhraakellian> OY!<br />
:2005-04-21 14:47:53 <ShadowMaster> Dhraakellian: Only sluggy staffer awake huh<br />
:2005-04-21 14:48:13 <Dhraakellian> or non-afk</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=HypertWiki:Sandbox&diff=1851HypertWiki:Sandbox2005-04-21T21:04:52Z<p>Aero: </p>
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<div>Testing signature [[User:Aero|Aero]] 15:04, 21 Apr 2005 (CST)</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Status&diff=38SluggySquad Status2005-04-21T20:55:00Z<p>Aero: corrected timezone</p>
<hr />
<div>This is an interim area for collecting information relating to the status of SluggySquad as it goes through (insert appropriate euphemism here).<br />
<br />
== What Happened ==<br />
At 2:06 pm EDT 2005-04-21, SqueakyMewMew, founder and owner of the SluggySquad family of channels (#sluggysquad, #sluggyafterdark, #sluggytoys, #sluggycrafts, #sluggycounsel) was akilled from the VillageIRC network:<br />
<br />
*<-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
<br />
SqueakyMewMew sent the network owners a polite goodbye email and has relinquished ownership of all the Sluggy channels. Discussions are now underway to determine what will happen next.<br />
<br />
Watch this page for updates.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:28, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
<br />
This decision was made (as I understand it) by the owners of the network. I was not involved in the discussions leading up to this, but I support the network's decision -- although I am also very sorry to see Mew go; more about this later.<br />
<br />
==Partial transcript==<br />
Here's part of what the network administrators had to say in #sluggysquad. '''Emphasis''' has been added by [[User:Aero|me]]. (time=EDT)<br />
:[02:13pm] <+Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. '''For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken.''' However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:[02:14pm] <+ShadowMaster> Several members actually<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:[02:15pm] <+ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:[02:17pm] <+ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:[02:21pm] <+ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
<br />
And here is Mew's eventual decision: (time=MDT)<br />
:(13:22:25) squeakymewmew: I've decided not to move the channels<br />
:(13:22:37) squeakymewmew: I'm sending an email to the chanops and to the network staff appointing Harena as the new owner in my stead<br />
<br />
== Issues ==<br />
<br />
*We may want to contact Pete Abrams and ask for his blessing to continue the channels under new management.<br />
<br />
==Related links==<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ Mew's livejournal]<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com]</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Status&diff=36SluggySquad Status2005-04-21T20:53:02Z<p>Aero: format</p>
<hr />
<div>This is an interim area for collecting information relating to the status of SluggySquad as it goes through (insert appropriate euphemism here).<br />
<br />
== What Happened ==<br />
At 2:06 pm EDT 2005-04-21, SqueakyMewMew, founder and owner of the SluggySquad family of channels (#sluggysquad, #sluggyafterdark, #sluggytoys, #sluggycrafts, #sluggycounsel) was akilled from the VillageIRC network:<br />
<br />
*<-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
<br />
SqueakyMewMew sent the network owners a polite goodbye email and has relinquished ownership of all the Sluggy channels. Discussions are now underway to determine what will happen next.<br />
<br />
Watch this page for updates.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:28, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
<br />
This decision was made (as I understand it) by the owners of the network. I was not involved in the discussions leading up to this, but I support the network's decision -- although I am also very sorry to see Mew go; more about this later.<br />
<br />
==Partial transcript==<br />
Here's part of what the network administrators had to say. '''Emphasis''' has been added by me. (time=EDT)<br />
:[02:13pm] <+Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. '''For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken.''' However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:[02:14pm] <+ShadowMaster> Several members actually<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:[02:15pm] <+ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:[02:17pm] <+ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:[02:21pm] <+ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
<br />
And here is Mew's eventual decision: (time=CDT)<br />
:(13:22:25) squeakymewmew: I've decided not to move the channels<br />
:(13:22:37) squeakymewmew: I'm sending an email to the chanops and to the network staff appointing Harena as the new owner in my stead<br />
<br />
== Issues ==<br />
<br />
*We may want to contact Pete Abrams and ask for his blessing to continue the channels under new management.<br />
<br />
==Related links==<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ Mew's livejournal]<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com]</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Status&diff=35SluggySquad Status2005-04-21T20:45:40Z<p>Aero: </p>
<hr />
<div>This is an interim area for collecting information relating to the status of SluggySquad as it goes through (insert appropriate euphemism here).<br />
<br />
== What Happened ==<br />
At 2:06 pm EDT 2005-04-21, SqueakyMewMew, founder and owner of the SluggySquad family of channels (#sluggysquad, #sluggyafterdark, #sluggytoys, #sluggycrafts, #sluggycounsel) was akilled from the VillageIRC network:<br />
<br />
*<-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
<br />
SqueakyMewMew sent the network owners a polite goodbye email and has relinquished ownership of all the Sluggy channels. Discussions are now underway to determine what will happen next.<br />
<br />
Watch this page for updates.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:28, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
<br />
This decision was made (as I understand it) by the owners of the network. I was not involved in the discussions leading up to this, but I support the network's decision -- although I am also very sorry to see Mew go; more about this later.<br />
<br />
==Partial transcript==<br />
Here's part of what the network administrators had to say. '''Emphasis''' has been added by me. (time=EDT)<br />
:[02:13pm] <+Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. '''For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken.''' However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:«+ShadowMaster» Several members actually<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:[02:15pm] <+ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:[02:17pm] <+ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:[02:21pm] <+ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
<br />
And here is Mew's eventual decision: (time=CDT)<br />
:(13:22:25) squeakymewmew: I've decided not to move the channels<br />
:(13:22:37) squeakymewmew: I'm sending an email to the chanops and to the network staff appointing Harena as the new owner in my stead<br />
<br />
== Issues ==<br />
<br />
*We may want to contact Pete Abrams and ask for his blessing to continue the channels under new management.<br />
<br />
==Related links==<br />
*[http://www.livejournal.com/users/roolet/ Mew's livejournal]<br />
*[http://www.sluggysquad.com SluggySquad.com]</div>Aerohttps://hypertwins.org/mw/index.php?title=SluggySquad_Status&diff=33SluggySquad Status2005-04-21T20:30:05Z<p>Aero: </p>
<hr />
<div>This is an interim area for collecting information relating to the status of SluggySquad as it goes through (insert appropriate euphemism here).<br />
<br />
== What Happened ==<br />
At 2:06 pm EDT 2005-04-21, SqueakyMewMew, founder and owner of the SluggySquad family of channels (#sluggysquad, #sluggyafterdark, #sluggytoys, #sluggycrafts, #sluggycounsel) was akilled from the VillageIRC network:<br />
<br />
*<-- squeakymewmew has quit (Autokilled: For the safety and well-being of all network members and staff, your presence on our network is no longer welcome. You will receive an email detailing these reasons within the next 24 hours.)<br />
<br />
SqueakyMewMew sent the network owners a polite goodbye email and has relinquished ownership of all the Sluggy channels. Discussions are now underway to determine what will happen next.<br />
<br />
Watch this page for updates.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 14:28, 21 Apr 2005 (CST) adds:<br />
<br />
This decision was made (as I understand it) by the owners of the network. I was not involved in the discussions leading up to this, but I support the network's decision -- although I am also very sorry to see Mew go; more about this later.<br />
<br />
==Partial transcript==<br />
Here's part of what the network administrators had to say. '''Emphasis''' has been added by me. (time=EDT)<br />
:[02:13pm] <+Cynapede> FYI: Some of you have seen squeakymewmew be removed from the network, and we have had private inquiries, so want to clear the air here....<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> The removal from the network is permanant. '''For matters of personal privacy and confidentiality, I cannot divulge specifics as to why this action was taken.''' However, it involves personal well-being of a member on this network.<br />
:[02:14pm] <+Cynapede> I want each and every one of you to know though...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You (the members) AND sluggy channels have been a vital part of our community here for nearly 2 years...<br />
:[02:15pm] <+Cynapede> You continue to be welcome and wanted as members of our community :)<br />
:[02:15pm] <+ShadowMaster> What happens to the sluggites will be up to the sluggites themselves and the staff members<br />
:[02:17pm] <+ShadowMaster> Due to past history and information we have, we have put the sluggy channels in a state where they cannot be harmed pending Sluggy staff having had time to discuss matters<br />
:[02:21pm] <+ShadowMaster> Out of respect for Mew i refuse to go into any details in public nor private. I will say however that this decition was not reached lightly and its part of a long running history of events that have culminated in the past weeks<br />
<br />
And here is Mew's eventual decision: (time=CDT)<br />
:(13:22:25) squeakymewmew: I've decided not to move the channels<br />
:(13:22:37) squeakymewmew: I'm sending an email to the chanops and to the network staff appointing Harena as the new owner in my stead<br />
<br />
== Issues ==<br />
<br />
*We may want to contact Pete Abrams and ask for his blessing to continue the channels under new management.</div>Aero